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AW: test conditions provided
by Baese Gero 20 Oct '00

20 Oct '00

Dear experts, Mr. Li, we want to proceed with a technical and objective discussion. Everybody is solicited to suggest further improvements for the provided test conditions to become as realistic as possible. Any constructive criticism is welcome as well. Concerning your point Mr. Li, if you read the test conditions carefully you will see it is one item out of a list where you have the choice to take what you think is suitable. You will find the H.263 Wireless Profile also. Furthermore we want to discuss the main points of the test conditions (bearer service, ...). What is your opinion about the UMTS scenario ? We are still convinced, the provided test conditions are fair and reasonable. Best Wishes Gero Baese > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Adam Li [mailto:adamli@icsl.ucla.edu] > Gesendet am: Montag, 16. Oktober 2000 07:00 > An: Mailing list for parties associated with ITU-T Study Group 16 > Cc: Baese Gero; Yung Lyul Lee; Jeong-Hoon Park; John D. Villasenor > Betreff: RE: test conditions provided > > Dear experts and Mr. Gero, > > It seems that the conditions described in the document can hardly be > called "reasonable and fair conditions". > > For example, for Media codecs, it specifies H.263 with Annex O. As we > all know, Annex O (with spatial, temporal and SNR scalability) is NOT > in the Wireless Profiles of H.263. Indeed, it is not in ANY of the > profiles defined in H.263. > > The whole Annex O is such a very complex algorithm, that it is NOT > even in the most complex profiles where complexity is not that much a > concern. It is really unimaginable that any mobile applications will > use Annex O. > > If the Siemens proposal needed such a un-realistic scenario to provide > any possible gain, the wireless connection oriented Annex I seems is > not the right place for it. > > Since Mr. Gero have just proposed the condition now, he may have > enough resource to test it before the document submission date. Maybe > you can test it also without Annex O, Mr. Gero? > > Sincerely, > > Adam Li > > ---------- > Adam H. Li, Ph.D. > Image Communication Lab (310) 825-5178 (Lab) > University of California, Los Angeles (310) 825-7928 (Fax) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mailing list for parties associated with ITU-T Study Group 16 > > [mailto:ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.intel.com]On Behalf Of Baese Gero > > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:38 AM > > To: ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com > > Subject: test conditions provided > > > > > > Dear experts, > > > > the long lasting diskussion about the superiority of one > > of the proposals concerning error resilient transmission > > of progressive multimedia streams(H.323 Annex I) needs > > to be decided on an objective basis soon. > > > > Therefor we are providing reasonable and fair test conditions. > > > > The test conditions are focused on a common UMTS scenario with > > video input and PSNR as an objective quality measurement. > > Furthermore > > every step in between is well defined and a graphic visualization of > > the outcome is the ideal and easy basis, with not much room for > > interpretation, for the decision process. > > > > > > Comments, questions and supplements are welcome. > > > > Best wishes > > Gero Baese > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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Re: APC Number Request
by Sakae OKUBO 20 Oct '00

20 Oct '00

Dear Mr. Ratta, >Please assign an APC number to the following document directed >to the Q14/16 rapporteur's meeting in November: > >Source: Lucent Technologies >Title: Proposal to create an SDL representation of H.248 APC-1960 has been allocated to your contribution. Best regards, Sakae OKUBO *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 (to be transferred) +81 3 3204 8194 (direct) Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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IEEE PACRIM 2001 CALL FOR PAPERS
by agullive＠ENGR.UVIC.CA 19 Oct '00

19 Oct '00

**************** CALL FOR PAPERS *************** 2001 IEEE Pacific Rim Conference on Communications, Computers and Signal Processing (PACRIM'01) August 26-28, 2001, Victoria, B.C., Canada Sponsored by IEEE Canada (Region 7) & IEEE Victoria Section Co-sponsored by the University of Victoria Established in 1987, Pacific Rim Conference is the premier IEEE biennial event in the Pacific Northwest. It is our pleasure to invite you to participate in this event. The scope of PACRIM'01 encompasses but is not limited to: Mobile and Personal Communications Computer Architecture Coding, Modulation and Spread Spectrum Parallel and Distributed Computing ATM Networks Internet Applications Multimedia Communications Neural Networks and Genetic Algorithms Optoelectronic Systems and Devices Hardware/Software Codesign Broadband Satellite Communications Database and Knowledge-Based Systems DSP Applications in Telecommunication Adaptive Filters and Algorithms Image and Video Processing Wavelets and Filter Banks Digital Filters VLSI Speech and Audio Processing Nonlinear Signals and Systems DEADLINES 1000 word summary: March 1, 2001 Acceptance/Rejection: April 1, 2001 Camera Ready Copy: May 1, 2001 Please submit your summary General enquires on PACRIM'01 (by March 1, 2001) to the can be addressed to either of the Technical Program Chair: General Co-Chairs: Dr. Panajotis Agathoklis Dr. Aaron Gulliver or Dr. Kin Li Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng. Dept. of Electrical & Computer Eng. University of Victoria University of Victoria P.O. Box 3055, STN CSC P.O. Box 3055, STN CSC Victoria, BC, Canada V8W 3P6 Victoria, BC, Canada V8W 3P6 Fax: +1-250-721-6052 Fax: +1-250-721-6052 Email: pan(a)ece.uvic.ca Email: agullive(a)ece.uvic.ca or kinli(a)ece.uvic.ca Accepted papers will be published by the IEEE in the Conference Proceedings. They will be available for worldwide post conference sales from the IEEE. Further information on the conference may be found on the Website: http://www.citr.ece.uvic.ca/pacrim01/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We apologize if you have received this notice more than once. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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Re: H.323 Annex O
by Sakae OKUBO 19 Oct '00

19 Oct '00

Dear Orit, >Please, allocate an APC number for "H.323 Annex O. Draft." APC-1959 has been allocated to your contribution. Best regards, Sakae OKUBO *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 (to be transferred) +81 3 3204 8194 (direct) Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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[H.323 Mobility:] Reservation of MD-107 and MD-108 & upload of MD -100
by Jaakko Sundquist 19 Oct '00

19 Oct '00

Hi all, I reserve the MD-numbers: MD-107 and MD-108 for myself. The contributions are: MD-107 "3Gfication of H.323 Annex H Terms and Definitions" MD-108 "Comparison of 3GPP R'00 (v4) and H.323 Annex H Architectures". I will upload these contributions to the server probably next week. I will also upload MD-100 "List of MDs", containing the list of currently reserved MD-numbers to the Mobility-AHG folder in the incoming directory of the pictel ftp-site. ------------------------------------------------ Jaakko Sundquist * +358 50 3598281 * Audere est Facere! jaakko.sundquist(a)nokia.com * ------------------------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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Re: Please allocate APC numbers
by Sakae OKUBO 18 Oct '00

18 Oct '00

Dear Mr. Jones, >Please allocate APC numbers for the Implementers Guide and H.323v4 >documents. APC-1957 and 1958 have been allocated to your two contributions, respectively. Best regards, Sakae OKUBO *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 (to be transferred) +81 3 3204 8194 (direct) Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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Rapporteur meeting on 9-10 November in Geneva
by Sakae OKUBO 18 Oct '00

18 Oct '00

Dear Q12-14/16 experts, The subject meeting will be held according to the meeting notice: http://standard.pictel.com/ftp/avc-site/0011_Gen/Notice_0011_Geneva.zip Please note the following and take your actions: 1) Registration Please return to me your registration form by e-mail as soon as possible, by 26 October 2000 at the latest. A sufficient number of participants is one of the requirements to get final approval for holding the meeting. 2) Documents Please register your input documents as soon as possible, by the following deadline at the latest: /// Registration of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 30 October /// /// Distribution of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 2 November /// A sufficient number of contributions is one of the requirements to get final approval for holding the meeting. 3) Delayed contributions for the SG16 meeting When you submit a delayed contribution for the following week SG16 meeting, please submit it also as an APC document. Where it should be discussed is subject to the decision of Rapporteur, with the participants agreement, on a case by case basis. It is important that all documents are available at the Rapporteur meeting. 4) TIES account If you participate in the Rapporteur meeting and are a member of ITU-T, please obtain the TIES account. We will use the TIES ftp site and PictureTel ftp site for document distribution during the meeting. See <http://www.itu.int/TIES/> for registration information. Best regards, Sakae OKUBO *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 (to be transferred) +81 3 3204 8194 (direct) Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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please send information on h.323
by Larry Govedich 16 Oct '00

16 Oct '00

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test conditions provided
by Baese Gero 16 Oct '00

16 Oct '00

Dear experts, the long lasting diskussion about the superiority of one of the proposals concerning error resilient transmission of progressive multimedia streams(H.323 Annex I) needs to be decided on an objective basis soon. Therefor we are providing reasonable and fair test conditions. The test conditions are focused on a common UMTS scenario with video input and PSNR as an objective quality measurement. Furthermore every step in between is well defined and a graphic visualization of the outcome is the ideal and easy basis, with not much room for interpretation, for the decision process. Comments, questions and supplements are welcome. Best wishes Gero Baese

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AW: Q12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting on 9-10 November
by Pierre-Andre.Probst＠SWISSCOM.COM 16 Oct '00

16 Oct '00

Federico, Fabio, I suppose somebody gave the green light to the rapporteurs for the three questions and that the rooms are available in Geneva?? Best regards Pierre-André -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Sakae OKUBO [mailto:okubo@giti.waseda.ac.jp] Gesendet am: Samstag, 7. Oktober 2000 18:05 An: Q.12-14/16 Reflector Cc: Probst Pierre-Andre, EXR; George Helder; Federico Tosco; Fabio Bigi Betreff: Q12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting on 9-10 November To Experts of ITU-T SG16 Q.12/16, Q.13/16 and Q.14/16 Cc Mr. P-A. Probst, Chairman of SG16 Mr. G. Helder, Vice-Chairman of SG16 Mr. F. Tosco, Chairman of WP2/16 Mr. F. Bigi, ITU-TSB De Sakae OKUBO Rapporteur for Q.12/16 in ITU-T SG16 TAO Waseda Research Center 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 3204 8194 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 E-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp Dale SKRAN Rapporteur for Q.13/16 in ITU-T SG16 Sonus Networks Suite 3500, 4400 Route 9 South Freehold, NJ 07748 USA Tel: +1 732 625 3003, x202 Fax: E-mail: dskran(a)sonusnet.com Glen FREUNDLICH Rapporteur for Q.14/16 in ITU-T SG16 Avaya Communication 1300 W. 120th Avenue Westminster, Colorado 80234 USA Tel: +1 303 538 2899 Fax: +1 303 538 3907 E-mail: ggf(a)avaya.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Notice of Q.12-14/16 Rapporteur Meeting in Geneva Date: 6 October 2000 ------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Q.12-14/16 experts, The subject meeting of ITU-T SG16 experts will be held in Geneva, Switzerland hosted by ITU-TSB. Please note that this Rapporteur meeting is held in advance of the SG16 meeting during 13-17 November 2000, but the two meetings are managed separately. This notice is only concerned with the Rapporteur meeting during 9-10 November. For the SG16 meeting, separate participation procedures are applied as in TSB Collective-letter 10/16 <http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/com16/coll/010_ww9.doc> even if the two meeting are held at the same ITU premises. Please also note that non-ITU-T members may attend this Rapporteur meeting, but such attendees are requested to contact one of the rapporteurs. Procedures for contribution from a non-ITU-T member are described below in section 4, item 3. 1. Date ^^^^^^^ 9 (Thursday) - 10 (Friday) November 2000 starting at 9:00 on the first day closing at around 18:00 on the final day 2. Venue ^^^^^^^^ ITU headquarters Place des Nations CH-1211 Geneva 20 GENEVE, Switzerland Tel: +41 22 730 51 11 Fax: +41 22 733 72 56 <http://www.itu.int/aboutitu/reachitu.html> Detailed information concerning the meeting rooms will be displayed on screens at the entrances to ITU headquarters. 3. Topics (tentative) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) Review of the relevant group meetings 2) Q.12/16 B-ISDN multimedia systems and terminals - Work with Q.13 on high quality video transmission over IP - Future AV communication systems 3) Q.13/16 Packet switched multimedia systems and terminals - Inputs for the SG16 decision/approval * H.323 Implementor's Guide * Other TDs - Toward determination at the SG16 meeting: * H.323 Annex H (User, Service, and Terminal Mobility in H.323) * H.323 Annex I (Packet based MM Telephony over Error Prone Channels) * H.450.10 (Call Offer Supplementary Services) * H.450.11 (Call Intrusion) * H.450.12 (Common Information Additional Network) * H.225.0 Annex G V2 (Inter-domain) * H.323 Annex R (Robustness) * H.323 Annex M.3 (DSS1 Tunneling) - Progress work for: * H.323 Annex N (QoS) * H.323 Annex O (Internet protocols and technologies complementary to H.323) * H.323 Annex P (Modem Relay) * Other new items that may arise 4) Q.14/16 Common protocols, MCUs and protocols for interworking with H.300-series terminals - Inputs for the SG16 decision/approval * H.248 Implementor's Guide * Other TDs - Toward determination in November: * H.248 Annex L * H.248 Annex M - Progress work for: * H.235 V3 * H.235 Annex F * H.235 Annex G * H.245 V8 * H.246 Annex D * H.248 V2 * H.341 V2 * other new items that may arise (e.g., new packages for H.248) 5) Interaction with other groups 4. 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Registration ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To register your meeting attendance, please send the attached form to S Okubo (okubo(a)giti.or.jp) by 26 October 2000 by e-mail, with copy to dskran(a)sonusnet.com, ggf(a)avaya.com. 6. Hotel Room Reservation ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Please find a hotel yourself. For your information, a hotel confirmation form is attached to this meeting notice (see TSB Circular 259 of 10 March 2000 for the list of hotels<http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/circ/circ5/259.html>). We are looking forward to meeting with you in Geneva. Sincerely yours, Sakae OKUBO Dale SKRAN Glen FREUNDLICH ---------- Registration form for the Q12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting 9-10 November 2000 Geneva 1. Mr. Mrs. Miss: ___________ Family Name: ______________________________________________ First Name: ______________________________________________ 2. Country: ______________________________________________ 3. Organization: ______________________________________________ 4. 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