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[itu-sg16] 答复: Web page of NID
by Noah Luo(罗忠) 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Dear All I think it is a good idea to create such a webpage to promote our work on NID. First of all, the ongoing debate about technical details of H.IRP and H.IDscheme will make it unwise for us to expose too much details at this stage.So, on this point,I agree with Mr.Goto. Major contents I think we should include are as follows: 1.Highlighting F.771 and H.621,their use cases and scenarios. 2.Basic architecture of NID in SG16 context 3.Ongoing work, emphasizing its value and usefulness without going to technical details.It is in the common interest of all involved parties to let the work carry on to a successful completion. It is also a way to make response to all kinds of sceptical questions asked 4.Commerical application.I think Korea and Japan don't lack such success stories. 5.Mr.Koshuzuka and Takashima told me once they have a website,can we borrow some good ideas from them? Best Regards Noah -----邮件原件----- 发件人: Yoshinori Goto [mailto:goto.yoshinori@lab.ntt.co.jp] 发送时间: 2009年12月9日 14:48 收件人: itu-sg16(a)lists.packetizer.com; Noboru Koshizuka; Noah Luo; 이준섭; kamina(a)sakamura-lab.org; Olivier DUBUISSON 主题: Web page of NID Dear NID experts, I would like to initiate a discussion on possible web page of NID. The idea was proposed at the last SG16 meeting by Mr. Olivier. In my understanding, the purpose of the web page is to promote our activities on NID. We have two approved Recommendations H.621 and F.771, and two on-going works, H.IRP and H.IDscheme. As we already did through some LSs to outside bodies, the promotion of these achievements and on-going activities is necessary. On the other hand, we are still debating on the technical content of H.IRP and H.IDscheme. This means that we should avoid going too much details about these debate. So, I would like to ask those who are involved in this work for the idea of our web page including the content. FYI, another project in WP2/16, AMS, set up their own web page (http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com16/ams/index.html). This is a good example for our web page. Best regards, -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Yoshinori Goto NTT Access Network Service Systems Labs. TEL:+81 46 859 2241 FAX:+81 46 859 5513 e-mail:goto.yoshinori@lab.ntt.co.jp <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

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[itu-sg16] Notice of Shanghai Meeting (8-12 March 2010)
by Seong-Ho Jeong 22 Feb '10

22 Feb '10

To Experts of ITU-T SG16 Questions 2, 3, 4, 12, 13, 21, 22, 24, and 25/16 Cc Mr Y Naito, Chairman of SG16 <yushi.naito(a)ties.itu.int> Mr S-H Jeong, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <shjeong(a)hufs.ac.kr> Mr N Luo, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <noah(a)huawei.com> Mr M T Neibert, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <markneibert(a)mac.com> Ms C Lamblin, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <claude.lamblin(a)orange-ftgroup.com> Mr I Oueichek, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <oueichek(a)tarassul.sy> Mr F Soumah, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <drfsuma(a)yahoo.fr> Mr S Campos-Neto, ITU TSB <simao.campos(a)itu.int> Mr P Luthi, Rapporteur for Q1/16 <patrick.luthi(a)TANDBERG.NO> De P Jones, Rapporteur for Q2 and 12/16 <paulej(a)packetizer.com> C Groves, Rapporteur for Q3/16 <Christian.Groves(a)nteczone.com> S-H Jeong, Rapporteur for Q4/16 <shjeong(a)hufs.ac.kr> B Kenrick, Associate Rapporteur for Q12/16 <brody.kenrick(a)dilithiumnetworks.com> M Kawamori, Rapporteur for Q13/16 and Q28/16 <kawamori.masahito(a)lab.ntt.co.jp> Y Goto, Rapporteur for Q21/16 <goto(a)ansl.ntt.co.jp> MJ Sun, Associate Rapporteur for Q21/16 <sunmingjun(a)catr.com.cn> N Luo, Rapporteur for Q22/16 <noah(a)huawei.com> B He, Rapporteur for Q24/16 <hebaohong(a)mail.ritt.com.cn> H J Kim, Rapporteur for Q25/16 <khj(a)etri.re.kr> ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Notice of Joint Rapporteur Meeting in Shanghai, China Date: 8-12 March 2010 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Experts of Questions 2, 3, 4, 12, 13, 21, 22, 24, and 25/16, The subject meeting of ITU-T SG16 experts will be held in Shanghai, China, at the kind invitation of China Telecom. Details of the meeting are contained herein. 1. Date ^^^^^^^ 8 (Monday) - 12 (Friday) March 2010 The meeting will start at 9:00 AM on the first day and close at around 6:00 PM on the final day. 2. Venue ^^^^^^^^ Radisson Hotel Pudong Century Park Address: 1199 Ying Chun Road, Pudong, Shanghai, China Phone: +86 21 51300000-6015/6014/6010 Fax: +86 21 51300099 E-mail: reservations.pudong(a)radisson.com Website: http://www.radisson.com/shanghaicn_pudong 3. Topics (tentative) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) Review of the relevant group activities 2) Q2/16 H.323 real-time multimedia system - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on H.460.geo - Progress work on H.323 Annex I - Progress work on TP.HNFT - Initiate work to revise H.450-series and other Recommendations with corrections recorded in the H.323-Series IG - Discussion of miscellaneous and new work items 3) Q3/16 Multimedia gateway control architectures and protocols - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on: * H.248.48 (ex H.248.QHR) * H.248.50 (ex H.248.NATTT) * H.248.66 (ex H.248.RTSP) * H.248.73 (ex H.248.MSCML) * H.248.74 (ex H.248.MRCP) * H.248.PIPA * H.248.PACKETS * H.248.DPI * H.248.ALG * H.248.SDPMAPPER * H.248.SRTP * H.248.FILTER * H.248 Sub Series IG * H Series Supp.2 - Consider new material 4) Q4/16 Advanced functions for H.300-series systems and beyond - Progress work on H.codec.qoe - Progress work on the revision of H.350 Sub-series and H-series Supplements - Discussion of new topics on QoS, mobility, and security for multimedia services 5) Q12/16 Advanced multimedia system for NGN and other packet- based networks - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on requirements - Progress work on AMS system and terminal architecture - Progress work on AMS network entities - Progress work on H.cis, H.ifa, and H.ifb signalling specifications - Progress work on media transmission and processing - Discussion of miscellaneous and new work items 6) Q13/16 Multimedia application platforms and end systems for IPTV - Progress work on IPTV 7) Q21/16 Multimedia architecture - Progress work on home network and remote management, NID, network-based speech-to-speech translation, visual surveillance 8) Q22/16 Multimedia applications and services - Progress work on service awareness, NID, USN, network-based speech-to-speech translation 9) Q24/16 Multimedia functions in NGN and other networks - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on scenarios and requirements of multimedia optimization control components, service awareness and traffic control functional component 10) Q25/16 USN Applications and Services - Progress work on H.SNMF and F.USN-CC - Discussion of USN applications and services 11) Interaction with other groups 12) Future work plan 4. Documents ^^^^^^^^^^^^ /// Registration of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 26 Feb. 2010 /// /// Distribution of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 1 March 2010 /// /// Use the ftp site (or e-mail reflector) for distribution /// 1) When you are going to submit a document, please notify Mr Yoshinori Goto <goto(a)ansl.ntt.co.jp>, document manager of this meeting, as soon as possible, by 23:59 UTC, Friday 26 Feb. 2010 at the latest. Document number AVD-nnnn will be allocated. Early indication of your submission plan is welcome and encouraged. Note - Prefix "AVD" comes from Audio, Video and Data. 2) You are advised to use the document template available at the following place: < http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/AVD-template_1003_S… >. 3) File format: Use of Word, PDF, ASCII or HTML is recommended. 4) All the contributors are requested to distribute their documents as early as possible, at least 7 calendar days in advance of the meeting (23:59 UTC, Monday 1 March 2010 or before) by posting them at either of the following: - Uploading via FTP Site: ftp3.itu.int/ User ID: avguest Password: Avguest (Note the uppercase 'A') Directory: avc-site/Incoming - E-mail reflector E-mail address: <itu-sg16(a)lists.packetizer.com> To subscribe: please visit <http://lists.packetizer.com/mailman/listinfo/itu-sg16> Please avoid the use of reflector when your document is voluminous (i.e., more than 100 kbytes). 5) Input documents can be retrieved from 1003_Sha directory of the ftp site once Mr Goto has an opportunity to put them into place. The documents will be available through the following URLs: <http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/> <ftp://ftp3.itu.int/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/> user: avguest, password: Avguest 6) The document distribution/presentation at the meeting will be all electronic. Participants must bring along a laptop, wireless LAN card and/or Ethernet card, in order to access the documents (Internet access will be available in the meeting rooms). Note: Please make sure you have the right power adapter for China. For more detailed information, please see < http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Sha_Invitation.zip>. 5. Logistic Information ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The meeting will be hosted by China Telecom. The meeting host's invitation containing logistic information can be found at <http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Sha_Invitation.zip >. 6. Registration and VISA Information ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To register your meeting attendance, please send e-mail to Mr Xin Shen <shenxin(a)sttri.com.cn>, copying noah(a)huawei.com and shjeong(a)hufs.ac.kr, providing the family name, given name, company name, and e-mail address of person(s) attending. We would remind you that citizens of some countries are required to obtain a visa in order to enter and spend time in China. The visa must be requested and obtained from the office (embassy or consulate) representing China in your country. Participants who need the invitation letter for visa need to fill out the invitation letter form and send it to Mr Xin Shen <shenxin(a)sttri.com.cn> not later than 11 Jan. 2010 as already announced. The form can be found at <http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Inv_Letter.doc>. In case you need any help of the meeting host, please contact Mr Xin Shen. Early registration of your attendance is welcome and encouraged, but preferably before 26 Feb. 2010 to facilitate the production of badges for all participants. 7. Hotel Room Reservation ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The meeting will be held at the Radisson Hotel Pudong Century Park in Shanghai, China. The detailed hotel information and reservation form can be found at <http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Sha_Invitation.zip >. Participants should contact the hotel directly regarding room availability and for making room reservations. We are looking forward to meeting with you in Shanghai, China. Sincerely yours, Paul JONES Christian GROVES Brody KENRICK Masahito KAWAMORI Ming Jun SUN Baohong HE Hyoung Jun KIM Noah LUO (meeting organizer of this meeting) Seong-Ho JEONG (meeting organizer of this meeting) Yoshinori GOTO (document manager of this meeting)

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[itu-sg16] Q13/16 Agenda
by Masahito Kawamori 24 Jan '10

24 Jan '10

Dear all Please find attached the meeting agenda for the upcoming Q13/16 meeting. I hope it will be uploaded as a TD. Looking forward to seeing you. Best regards Masahito KAWAMORI

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[itu-sg16] [Reminder] Invitation letter for WP2/16 Questions Rapporteur meeting in Shanghai, China
by Seong-Ho Jeong 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

Dear WP2/16 experts, This is to kindly remind you that people who need an invitation letter for a visa to visit China should fill out the attached form and send it to Mr. Shen by January 11, 2010. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns. Best regards, Seong-Ho Jeong -----Original Message----- From: itu-sg16-bounces(a)lists.packetizer.com [mailto:itu-sg16-bounces@lists.packetizer.com] On Behalf Of Seong-Ho Jeong Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:51 PM To: itu-sg16(a)lists.packetizer.com Subject: [itu-sg16] WP2/16 Questions Rapporteur meeting in Shanghai, China Dear WP2/16 experts, As already announced at http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/studygroups/com16/meetings.html, WP2/16 Questions Rapporteur meeting will be held on 8-12 March, 2010, in Shanghai, China, thanks to kind invitation by China Telecom. Please find attached the participant information form. In order to prepare the invitation letter, I would like to ask experts who are planning to attend the meeting to fill out the form and send it to the following contact person not later than Jan. 11, 2010. Early submission is very much appreciated. Contact: Mr. Shen Xin E-mail: shenxin(a)sttri.com.cn or raymon1981(a)gmail.com Tel: +86 21 58755057 The detailed meeting notice will be sent to you as soon as possible. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Seong-Ho Jeong ITU-T SG16 Vice-Chairman, WP2 Co-Chairman E-mail: shjeong(a)hufs.ac.kr, seong-ho.jeong(a)ties.itu.int

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[itu-sg16] Notice of Shanghai Meeting (8-12 March 2010)
by Seong-Ho Jeong 11 Jan '10

11 Jan '10

To Experts of ITU-T SG16 Questions 2, 3, 4, 12, 13, 21, 22, 24, and 25/16 Cc Mr Y Naito, Chairman of SG16 <yushi.naito(a)ties.itu.int> Mr S-H Jeong, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <shjeong(a)hufs.ac.kr> Mr N Luo, Vice Chairman of SG16 <noah(a)huawei.com> Mr M T Neibert, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <markneibert(a)mac.com> Ms C Lamblin, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <claude.lamblin(a)orange-ftgroup.com> Mr I Oueichek, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <oueichek(a)tarassul.sy> Mr F Soumah, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <drfsuma(a)yahoo.fr> Mr S Campos-Neto, ITU TSB <simao.campos(a)itu.int> Mr P Luthi, Rapporteur for Q1/16 <patrick.luthi(a)tandberg.com> De P Jones, Rapporteur for Q2 and Q12/16 <paulej(a)packetizer.com> C Groves, Rapporteur for Q3/16 <Christian.Groves(a)nteczone.com> S-H Jeong, Rapporteur for Q4/16 <shjeong(a)hufs.ac.kr> B Kenrick, Associate Rapporteur for Q12/16 <brody.kenrick(a)dilithiumnetworks.com> M Kawamori, Rapporteur for Q13/16 <kawamori.masahito(a)lab.ntt.co.jp> Y Goto, Rapporteur for Q21/16 <goto(a)ansl.ntt.co.jp> MJ Sun, Associate Rapporteur for Q21/16 <sunmingjun(a)catr.com.cn> N Luo, Rapporteur for Q22/16 <noah(a)huawei.com> B He, Rapporteur for Q24/16 <hebaohong(a)mail.ritt.com.cn> H J Kim, Rapporteur for Q25/16 <khj(a)etri.re.kr> ------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Notice of Joint Rapporteur Meeting in Shanghai, China Date: 8-12 March 2010 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Experts of Questions 2, 3, 4, 12, 13, 21, 22, 24, and 25/16, The subject meeting of ITU-T SG16 experts will be held in Shanghai, China, at the kind invitation of China Telecom. Details of the meeting are contained herein. 1. Date ^^^^^^^ 8 (Monday) - 12 (Friday) March 2010 The meeting will start at 9:00 AM on the first day and close at around 6:00 PM on the final day. 2. Venue ^^^^^^^^ Radisson Hotel Pudong Century Park Address: 1199 Ying Chun Road, Pudong, Shanghai, China Phone: +86 21 51300000-6015/6014/6010 Fax: +86 21 51300099 E-mail: reservations.pudong(a)radisson.com Website: http://www.radisson.com/shanghaicn_pudong 3. Topics (tentative) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1) Review of the relevant group activities 2) Q2/16 H.323 real-time multimedia system - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on H.460.geo - Progress work on H.323 Annex I - Progress work on TP.HNFT - Initiate work to revise H.450-series and other Recommendations with corrections recorded in the H.323-Series IG - Discussion of miscellaneous and new work items 3) Q3/16 Multimedia gateway control architectures and protocols - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on: * H.248.48 (ex H.248.QHR) * H.248.50 (ex H.248.NATTT) * H.248.66 (ex H.248.RTSP) * H.248.73 (ex H.248.MSCML) * H.248.74 (ex H.248.MRCP) * H.248.PIPA * H.248.PACKETS * H.248.DPI * H.248.ALG * H.248.SDPMAPPER * H.248.SRTP * H.248.FILTER * H.248 Sub Series IG * H Series Supp.2 - Consider new material 4) Q4/16 Advanced functions for H.300-series systems and beyond - Progress work on H.codec.qoe - Progress work on the revision of H.350 Sub-series and H-series Supplements - Discussion of new topics on QoS, mobility, and security for multimedia services 5) Q12/16 Advanced multimedia system for NGN and other packet- based networks - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on requirements - Progress work on AMS system and terminal architecture - Progress work on AMS network entities - Progress work on H.cis, H.ifa, and H.ifb signalling specifications - Progress work on media transmission and processing - Discussion of miscellaneous and new work items 6) Q13/16 Multimedia application platforms and end systems for IPTV - Progress work on IPTV 7) Q21/16 Multimedia architecture - Progress work on home network and remote management, NID, network-based speech-to-speech translation, visual surveillance 8) Q22/16 Multimedia applications and services - Progress work on service awareness, NID, USN, network-based speech-to-speech translation 9) Q24/16 Multimedia functions in NGN and other networks - Coordinate with other SDOs, Questions, or Study Groups - Progress work on scenarios and requirements of multimedia optimization control components, service awareness and traffic control functional component 10) Q25/16 USN Applications and Services - Progress work on H.SNMF and F.USN-CC - Discussion of USN applications and services 11) Interaction with other groups 12) Future work plan 4. Documents ^^^^^^^^^^^^ /// Registration of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 26 Feb. 2010 /// /// Distribution of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 1 March 2010 /// /// Use the ftp site (or e-mail reflector) for distribution /// 1) When you are going to submit a document, please notify Mr Yoshinori Goto <goto(a)ansl.ntt.co.jp>, document manager of this meeting, as soon as possible, by 23:59 UTC, Friday 26 Feb. 2010 at the latest. Document number AVD-nnnn will be allocated. Early indication of your submission plan is welcome and encouraged. Note - Prefix "AVD" comes from Audio, Video and Data. 2) You are advised to use the document template available at the following place: < http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/AVD-template_1003_S… > 3) File format: Use of Word, PDF, ASCII or HTML is recommended. 4) All the contributors are requested to distribute their documents as early as possible, at least 7 calendar days in advance of the meeting (23:59 UTC, Monday 1 March 2010 or before) by posting them at either of the following: - Uploading via FTP Site: ftp3.itu.int/ User ID: avguest Password: Avguest (Note the uppercase 'A') Directory: avc-site/Incoming - E-mail reflector E-mail address: <itu-sg16(a)lists.packetizer.com> To subscribe: please visit <http://lists.packetizer.com/mailman/listinfo/itu-sg16> Please avoid the use of reflector when your document is voluminous (i.e., more than 100 kbytes). 5) Input documents can be retrieved from 1003_Sha directory of the ftp site once Mr Goto has an opportunity to put them into place. The documents will be available through the following URLs: <http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/> <ftp://ftp3.itu.int/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/> user: avguest, password: Avguest 6) The document distribution/presentation at the meeting will be all electronic. Participants must bring along a laptop, wireless LAN card and/or Ethernet card, in order to access the documents (Internet access will be available in the meeting rooms). Note: Please make sure you have the right power adapter for China. For more detailed information, please see < http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Sha_Invitation.zip>. 5. Logistic Information ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The meeting will be hosted by China Telecom. The meeting host's invitation containing logistic information can be found at < http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Sha_Invitation.zip>. 6. Registration and VISA Information ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To register your meeting attendance, please send e-mail to Mr Xin Shen <shenxin(a)sttri.com.cn>, copying noah(a)huawei.com and shjeong(a)hufs.ac.kr, providing the family name, given name, company name, and e-mail address of person(s) attending. We would remind you that citizens of some countries are required to obtain a visa in order to enter and spend time in China. The visa must be requested and obtained from the office (embassy or consulate) representing China in your country. Participants who need the invitation letter for visa need to fill out the invitation letter form and send it to Mr Xin Shen <shenxin(a)sttri.com.cn> not later than 11 Jan. 2010 as already announced. The form can be found at <http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Inv_Letter.doc> In case you need any help of the meeting host, please contact Mr Xin Shen. Early registration of your attendance is welcome and encouraged, but preferably before 26 Feb. 2010 to facilitate the production of badges for all participants. 7. Hotel Room Reservation ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The meeting will be held at the Radisson Hotel Pudong Century Park in Shanghai, China. The detailed hotel information and reservation form can be found at <http://ftp3.itu.int/av-arch/avc-site/2009-2012/1003_Sha/Sha_Invitation.zip >. Participants should contact the hotel directly regarding room availability and for making room reservations. We are looking forward to meeting with you in Shanghai, China. Sincerely yours, Paul JONES Christian GROVES Brody KENRICK Masahito KAWAMORI Ming Jun SUN Baohong HE Hyoung Jun KIM Noah LUO (meeting organizer of this meeting) Seong-Ho JEONG (meeting organizer of this meeting) Yoshinori GOTO (document manager of this meeting)

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[itu-sg16] Facility-based call transfer in H.323
by Paul E. Jones 08 Jan '10

08 Jan '10

Folks, For years - perhaps since the first release of H.323 - many vendors have supported a means of doing a simple call transfer by sending a Facility message. The problem is that, while it's extremely trivial to implement, some devices didn't because it was not officially supported in H.323. Cisco took a proposal to the ITU years ago (D.345 from February 2000) proposing that we standardize it by adding it to H.323v4 officially. Unfortunately, it was rejected in favor of keeping a single mechanism for doing call transfer: H.450.2. However, it was not immediately dismissed: there were at least some who felt that it might be useful, but rather than introducing a new "callTransfer" reason, re-used "callForwarded" as is commonly (though not universally) implemented. Ultimately, though, the proposal went nowhere. The issue has not gone away, though, and it's now 2009. I believe we still need to introduce this procedure formally to H.323. I would not want to propose changes to the ASN.1, but I would like to legitimize sending Facility with a reason of "callForwarded" in order to perform a call transfer. Some devices may not support it, but that's the way things are today. My hope would be that at least more people would know about it. As an undocumented behavior, we have inconsistency in devices. What is the opinion of others? I'd be glad to submit a formal contribution to the next Q2/16 meeting if there is interest, but I'd like to hear from people both for or against the proposed change. If introduced, it would be an Amendment to H.323v7. To write this contribution, though, we probably need some guidance on what to do when a device does not respond to the Facility message. How do devices behave today? Do they assume the transfer failed if a Release Complete is not received within n seconds? In any case, please give me your opinion. Paul

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