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30 Aug '01

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Rapporteur's Meeting Reminder
by Paul E. Jones 28 Aug '01

28 Aug '01

Folks, This is just a reminder that people need to register for the upcoming Rapporteur's Meeting as soon as possible. In fact, the hotel reservations need to be made by August 31, 2001. Also, if you plan to attend the meeting and have not already done so, please send me an e-mail message to let me know. As you know, we need to have a certain number of people committed to coming so that we can have a productive meeting. Without contributions and attendees, it will be hard to justify holding a meeting! The meeting announcement can be found here: ftp://standard.pictel.com/avc-site/0109_San/Notice_ITU-T_Santa_Barbara.txt In brief: o Make your own hotel reservations directly with the hotel o Send me an e-mail message to let me know you're coming (reply to this one if you wish) o Send e-mail to Glen Freundlich (ggf(a)avaya.com) to request document numbers Best Regards, Paul ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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Joint Rapporteur Meeting in Santa Barbara
by Glen Freundlich 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

Dear experts of Questions D, F, G, 2-5/16, This is a reminder that the joint rapporteurs meeting of Q.D, F, G, 2-5 of SG16 is planned for 24 - 28 September in Santa Barbara, California. Recall that we will meet jointly with Q.11/16 during the first two days to address Modem over IP issues. The deadline for registering a contribution to the meeting is 14 September (please send registration requests to me). Also note that this Friday (31 August) is the deadline to book a room in the hotel at the discounted rate. You can find the meeting notice at ftp://standard.pictel.com/avc-site/0109_San/Notice_ITU-T_Santa_Barbara.txt. Regards, Glen

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Request for Document number.
by Logan Modahala 27 Aug '01

27 Aug '01

Glen, Please assign a document number for the following contribution at the upcoming ITU SG16 Mtg. Title: Circuit Information Signalling for Alternate Endpoints Thanks. -- Logan Modahala lmodahal(a)cisco.com, logan(a)cisco.com 7025 Kit Creek Road, P.O. Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 392-6561 fax: (919) 392-6801 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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H.450.2 and overlap sending?
by Frank Derks 22 Aug '01

22 Aug '01

In the case where no secondary call exists, an initiating endpoint (the A-party) has the choice of first setting up a secondary call and then transferring at some stage, or to simply start the transfer (a "blind" transfer" through a FACILITY message containing a ctInitiate.Invoke. In the latter case the reroutingNumber in the CTInitiateArg contains the (whole) number of the "C-party". What this implies is that the A-party must have some way of collecting entered digits and deciding when the number is complete, after which it sends the FACILITY message with the ctInitiate.Invoke or the user interface of the A-party must be such that it allows for entering a number for this purpose, after which transfer can be interactively activated, resulting in the sending of a FACILITY message with the ctInitiate.Invoke. There does not seem to be an obvious (or even possible) way to indicate to the receiving party that a transfer should be effected (E.g. through a ctInitiate.Invoke with an empty reroutingNumber) after sufficient number information has become available (E.g. in INFORMATION messages). This means that endpoints that would normally translate keypresses on the keypad to sending INFORMATION messages, would have to have special provisions to deal with this situation. Is this a correct interpretation of the Reommendation? Regards, Frank ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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Private Numbering Plans and the Called/Calling party number IEs
by Frank Derks 21 Aug '01

21 Aug '01

7.2.2.4/H.225.0 and 7.2.2.6/H.225.0 state that if the numbering plan information is set to "private" (in a packet based network originated call), that this indicates that the number itself is _not_ present in the IE, but in the User-User information. This is not the case for the Connected Number, as this is encoded per Q.951. Strangely enough 7.3.10/H.225.0 states (under the description of destinationAddress) that, if an endpoint uses only a dialled digit string that this address _shall_ be placed in the Called party number IE and (under the description of sourceAddress) that if the source has an E.164 address that this _shall_ be contained in the Calling party number IE. This would seem to contradict the statements in 7.2.2.4 and 7.2.2.6. Furthermore, it is not clear to me why private numbers can't just be put in the Called/Calling party number IEs? Regards, Frank ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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R:Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001
by Tosco Federico 18 Aug '01

18 Aug '01

Dear Fabio, Concerning WP2 it is correct. Best regards. Federico > ---------- > Da: Bigi, Fabio[SMTP:Fabio.Bigi@itu.int] > Inviato: venerdì 17 agosto 2001 16.26 > A: 'Tosco Federico'; ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM; 'chris.wilmot(a)BT.COM' > Cc: 'Probst'; Bigi, Fabio; 'Campos Neto'; Josserand, Astrid > Oggetto: RE: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > Dear Federico and Mitsusji,is my understanding correct that i can cancel > the > rooms provisionally reserved in Geneva from 3 to 7 September/22-26 > October.Best regards,Fabio. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tosco Federico [mailto:Federico.Tosco@TILAB.COM] > Sent: 14 August 2001 13:55 > To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM; 'chris.wilmot(a)BT.COM' > Cc: 'Probst'; 'Bigi'; 'Campos Neto' > Subject: R:Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > It is correct and I put the same dates in the report on planned > rapporteurs > meeting (TD 55 Plen). > It is unfortunate that the dates coincide with such an important holiday > but > I agree that it should have been detected before organizing the meeting. > > Federico Tosco > > > ---------- > > Da: Chris Wilmot[SMTP:chris.wilmot@BT.COM] > > Risposta a: chris.wilmot(a)BT.COM > > Inviato: venerdì 10 agosto 2001 10.51 > > A: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > > Oggetto: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > <<File: PL-052.doc>> > > > > For information. Section 3.9.10 of the plenary meeting notes PL-052 > gives > > the dates of 24-28th September, location TBD. My personal notes say the > > next > > meeting will either be in Southern California for the week beginning > 24th > > September (if sponsorship from a company is confirmed), otherwise it > will > > be > > in Geneva in either the week 3rd to 7th September, or the week 22nd to > > 26th > > October. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris Wilmot > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Even ,Roni [mailto:roni.even@POLYCOM.CO.IL] > > Sent: 09 August 2001 21:16 > > To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > > Subject: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > > > Paul, > > In brazil there was no dates specified. I think I mentioned that > beginning > > of September or end of October that were candidates if the meeting was > to > > be > > in Geneva will be better due to Jewish holidays. > > Roni Even > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej@PACKETIZER.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:20 AM > > To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > > Subject: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > > > Orit, > > > > We proposed the meeting dates at the last meeting in Brazil and nobody > > objected to the dates. Unfortunately, it's too late to change the dates > > at > > this point. > > > > Paul > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Orit Levin" <orit(a)radvision.com> > > To: "'Paul E. Jones'" <paulej(a)PACKETIZER.COM>; > > <ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:25 PM > > Subject: RE: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > > > > Dear all! > > > Have you been aware that the announced dates overlap with "Yom Kippur" > > > (September 26th and 27th) which may prevent many of the interested > > members > > > from attending the meeting? > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Orit Levin > > > Chief Architect > > > RADVISION Inc. > > > TEL: +1.201.529.4300 x 230 > > > FAX: +1.201.529.3516 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej@PACKETIZER.COM] > > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:23 PM > > > To: ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM > > > Subject: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > > > To Experts of ITU-T SG16 Questions D, F, G, 2, 3, 4 and 5/16 > > > > > > Cc Mr. P-A. Probst, Chairman of SG16 <probst-pa(a)bluewin.ch> > > > Mr. G. Wreikat, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <wreikat(a)hotmail.com> > > > Mr. F. Tosco, Chairman of WP2/16 <Federico.Tosco(a)tilab.com> > > > Mr. F. Bigi, ITU-TSB <Fabio.Bigi(a)itu.int> > > > Mr. L. Brown, Rapporteur Q.11/16 <Les.Brown(a)mindspeed.com> > > > Mr. P. Luthi, Rapporteur for Q.1/16 <Patrick_Luthi(a)pictel.com> > > > Mr. H. Wildfeuer, Cisco <hwildfeu(a)cisco.com> > > > > > > De T Taylor Rapporteur for Q.D/16 <taylor(a)nortelnetworks.com> > > > M Buckley Rapporteur for Q.F/16 <mikebuckley(a)44comms.com> > > > M Euchner Rapporteur for Q.G/16 > <Martin.Euchner(a)icn.siemens.de> > > > P Jones Rapporteur for Q.2/16 <paulej(a)packetizer.com> > > > G Freundlich Rapporteur for Q.3/16 <ggf(a)avaya.com> > > > S Okubo Rapporteur for Q.4/16 <okubo(a)giti.waseda.ac.jp> > > > P Reddy Rapporteur for Q.5/16 <paul.k.reddy(a)intel.com> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Subject: Notice of Joint Rapporteur Meeting in Santa Barbara > > > Date: 6 August 2001 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > Dear experts of Questions D, F, G, 2-5/16, > > > > > > The subject meeting of ITU-T SG16 experts will be held in Santa > Barbara, > > USA > > > at the kind invitation of Cisco Systems. > > > > > > Please note that Q.11/16 will meet concurrently at the same place and > > has > > > joint session(s) with Q.2/16 and Q.3/16. > > > > > > Please note that Q.1/16 will meet concurrently and has joint > session(s) > > > with Q.D, F, G, 1-5. > > > > > > 1. Date > > > ^^^^^^^ > > > > > > 24 (Monday) - 28 (Friday) September 2001 > > > Meeting will start at 9:00 AM on the first day > > > closing around 18:00 on the final day > > > > > > 2. Venue > > > ^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > Fess Parker's Doubletree Resort > > > 633 East Cabrillo Boulevard > > > Santa Barbara, CA 93103 > > > USA > > > Tel: +1 877 893 0892 (Free Call in US and Canada) > > > Tel: +1 805 564 4333 > > > Fax: +1 805 962 1814 > > > http://www.fpdtr.com/ > > > > > > 3. Topics (tentative) > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > 1) Review of the relevant group activities > > > > > > 2) Q.2/16 Multimedia over packet networks using H.323 systems > > > > > > - Progress work on: > > > * Annex Gv2/H.225.0 > > > * H.323 Annex N (QoS) > > > * H.323 Annex O (I-net protocols) > > > * H.323 Annex P "Modem Relay" > > > * H.450.x new recommendations > > > * H.GEF.1 (GEF Framework) > > > * H.GEF.3 (Presence) > > > * H.GEF.4 (Emergency Services) > > > * H.225.0v5 > > > * H.323v5 > > > > > > 3) Q.3/16 Infrastructure and interoperability for Multimedia over > > > packet networks > > > > > > - Progress work on: > > > * H.245 V9 (if needed) > > > * H.248 V2 > > > * New H.248 packages > > > * MoIP (modem over IP) as it relates to Q.3 > > > > > > 4) Q.4/16 Video and data conferencing using Internet-supported > services > > > > > > - Describe service scenarios > > > - Describe technical requirements > > > - Elaborate the workplan > > > > > > 5) Q.5/16 Mobility for Multimedia Systems and Services > > > > > > - Progress work on: > > > * H.MMS.0 (General MM) > > > * H.MMS.1 (H.323 Mobility) > > > * H.MMS.2 (Global MM Interop) > > > * H.MMS.3 (Presence) > > > * H.MMS.4 (IM and Mobility Interoperability) > > > > > > 6) Q.D/16 Interoperability of Multimedia Systems and Services > > > > > > - Establishing principles for interoperability of multimedia > signalling > > > systems > > > > > > 7) Q.F/16 Quality of Service and End-to-end Performance in Multimedia > > > Systems > > > > > > - Progress work on: > > > * H.qos.arch (QoS Architecture) > > > * H.mmclass (Multimedia QoS Service classification) > > > * H.mmcp (Call processing performance in Multimedia Systems) > > > * H.priority (Techniques and procedures for controlling service > > > priority) > > > * H.323 Annex N (QoS signalling and control in H.323 systems) > > > * H.trans.control (QoS signalling to Transport Domains) > > > * H.qos.m (QoS management issues) > > > * H.policy (QoS Policy Server Signalling) > > > * H.resilience (Error Resilience for media codecs) > > > > > > 8) Q.G/16 > > > > > > - Progress work on: > > > * H.235 V3 > > > * H.235 Annex F (Hybrid Security Profile) > > > * H.235 Annex G (H.MMS.1 security) > > > * work on emergency security services > > > > > > > > > 8) Interaction with other groups > > > > > > 9) Future work plan > > > > > > 4. Documents > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > /// Registration of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 14 September /// > > > /// Distribution of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 17 September /// > > > /// Use the ftp site (or e-mail reflector) for distribution /// > > > > > > 1) When you are going to submit a document, please notify > > > Glen Freundlich <ggf(a)avaya.com>, meeting document manager of > this > > > meeting, as soon as possible, by 23:59 UTC, Friday 14 September > > at > > > the latest. Document number AVD-nnnn will be allocated. Early > > > indication of your submission plan is welcome and encouraged. > > > > > > Note - Prefix "AVD" comes from Audio, Video and Data. > > > > > > 2) You are advised to include a header as follows: > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > | | > > > | ITU Telecommunication Standardization Sector Document AVD-{nnnn}| > > > | Study Group 16 {Version m if relevant}| > > > | Q.D, F, G, 2-5/16 Rapporteur Meeting {Date}| > > > | Santa Barbara, 24-28 September 2001 | > > > | | > > > | SOURCE*: { } | > > > | TITLE : { } | > > > | PURPOSE: {Proposal, Discussion, Information, Report, etc.} | > > > | | > > > | _________________________ | > > > | | > > > | | > > > | | > > > | *Contact: Name, e-mail | > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > 3) All the contributors are requested to distribute their > documents > > > as early as possible, at least 7 calendar days in advance of > the > > > meeting (23:59 UTC, Monday 17 September or before) by posting > > them > > > at either of the following: > > > > > > - PictureTel ftp site (please advise Mr. Freundlich of your posting) > > > > > > Site: standard.pictel.com/avc-site > > > Login name: anonymous > > > Directory: Incoming > > > > > > - Intel e-mail reflector > > > > > > e-mail address: itu-sg16(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > > > Please avoid the use of reflector when your document is voluminous. > > > > > > 4) Input documents can be retrieved from /0109_San directory of > the > > > ftp site. > > > > > > 5) The document distribution / presentation at the meeting will be > > all > > > electronic. Participants must bring along their laptop and > > Ethernet > > > card. It is recommended that participants bring an Ethernet > > > cable at least 7 meters in length. > > > > > > 5. Logistic information > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > The meeting will be hosted by Cisco Systems and held at the > > > Fess Parker's Doubletree Resort hotel in Santa Barbara, California, > USA. > > > > > > The best way to get to Santa Barbara is to fly into the Santa Barbara > > > Airport (SBA). There are convenient flights available to this airport > > > from Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, Denver and Phoenix. The > > > hotel is located 10 min south of the airport, using Highway 101. Car > > > rentals and taxis are available at the Santa Barbara Airport. Please > > > see http://www.fpdtr.com/maps.html for detailed directions to the > > > hotel. Drive time from Los Angeles is 2 hours. > > > > > > 6. 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After August 31, 2001, rooms > > > and rates will be based on availability. > > > > > > We are looking forward to meeting with you in Santa Barbara. > > > > > > Sincerely yours, > > > > > > Tom TAYLOR > > > Mike BUCKLEY > > > Martin EUCHNER > > > Paul JONES (meeting manager of this meeting) > > > Glen FREUNDLICH > > > Sakae OKUBO > > > Paul REDDY > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > > > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001
by Bigi, Fabio 17 Aug '01

17 Aug '01

Dear Federico and Mitsusji,is my understanding correct that i can cancel the rooms provisionally reserved in Geneva from 3 to 7 September/22-26 October.Best regards,Fabio. -----Original Message----- From: Tosco Federico [mailto:Federico.Tosco@TILAB.COM] Sent: 14 August 2001 13:55 To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM; 'chris.wilmot(a)BT.COM' Cc: 'Probst'; 'Bigi'; 'Campos Neto' Subject: R:Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 It is correct and I put the same dates in the report on planned rapporteurs meeting (TD 55 Plen). It is unfortunate that the dates coincide with such an important holiday but I agree that it should have been detected before organizing the meeting. Federico Tosco > ---------- > Da: Chris Wilmot[SMTP:chris.wilmot@BT.COM] > Risposta a: chris.wilmot(a)BT.COM > Inviato: venerdì 10 agosto 2001 10.51 > A: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > Oggetto: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > <<File: PL-052.doc>> > > For information. Section 3.9.10 of the plenary meeting notes PL-052 gives > the dates of 24-28th September, location TBD. My personal notes say the > next > meeting will either be in Southern California for the week beginning 24th > September (if sponsorship from a company is confirmed), otherwise it will > be > in Geneva in either the week 3rd to 7th September, or the week 22nd to > 26th > October. > > Regards, > > Chris Wilmot > > -----Original Message----- > From: Even ,Roni [mailto:roni.even@POLYCOM.CO.IL] > Sent: 09 August 2001 21:16 > To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > Subject: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > Paul, > In brazil there was no dates specified. I think I mentioned that beginning > of September or end of October that were candidates if the meeting was to > be > in Geneva will be better due to Jewish holidays. > Roni Even > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej@PACKETIZER.COM] > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:20 AM > To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > Subject: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > Orit, > > We proposed the meeting dates at the last meeting in Brazil and nobody > objected to the dates. Unfortunately, it's too late to change the dates > at > this point. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Orit Levin" <orit(a)radvision.com> > To: "'Paul E. Jones'" <paulej(a)PACKETIZER.COM>; > <ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:25 PM > Subject: RE: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > Dear all! > > Have you been aware that the announced dates overlap with "Yom Kippur" > > (September 26th and 27th) which may prevent many of the interested > members > > from attending the meeting? > > > > Best Regards, > > Orit Levin > > Chief Architect > > RADVISION Inc. > > TEL: +1.201.529.4300 x 230 > > FAX: +1.201.529.3516 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej@PACKETIZER.COM] > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:23 PM > > To: ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM > > Subject: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > To Experts of ITU-T SG16 Questions D, F, G, 2, 3, 4 and 5/16 > > > > Cc Mr. P-A. Probst, Chairman of SG16 <probst-pa(a)bluewin.ch> > > Mr. G. Wreikat, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <wreikat(a)hotmail.com> > > Mr. F. Tosco, Chairman of WP2/16 <Federico.Tosco(a)tilab.com> > > Mr. F. Bigi, ITU-TSB <Fabio.Bigi(a)itu.int> > > Mr. L. Brown, Rapporteur Q.11/16 <Les.Brown(a)mindspeed.com> > > Mr. P. Luthi, Rapporteur for Q.1/16 <Patrick_Luthi(a)pictel.com> > > Mr. H. Wildfeuer, Cisco <hwildfeu(a)cisco.com> > > > > De T Taylor Rapporteur for Q.D/16 <taylor(a)nortelnetworks.com> > > M Buckley Rapporteur for Q.F/16 <mikebuckley(a)44comms.com> > > M Euchner Rapporteur for Q.G/16 <Martin.Euchner(a)icn.siemens.de> > > P Jones Rapporteur for Q.2/16 <paulej(a)packetizer.com> > > G Freundlich Rapporteur for Q.3/16 <ggf(a)avaya.com> > > S Okubo Rapporteur for Q.4/16 <okubo(a)giti.waseda.ac.jp> > > P Reddy Rapporteur for Q.5/16 <paul.k.reddy(a)intel.com> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Notice of Joint Rapporteur Meeting in Santa Barbara > > Date: 6 August 2001 > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Dear experts of Questions D, F, G, 2-5/16, > > > > The subject meeting of ITU-T SG16 experts will be held in Santa Barbara, > USA > > at the kind invitation of Cisco Systems. > > > > Please note that Q.11/16 will meet concurrently at the same place and > has > > joint session(s) with Q.2/16 and Q.3/16. > > > > Please note that Q.1/16 will meet concurrently and has joint session(s) > > with Q.D, F, G, 1-5. > > > > 1. Date > > ^^^^^^^ > > > > 24 (Monday) - 28 (Friday) September 2001 > > Meeting will start at 9:00 AM on the first day > > closing around 18:00 on the final day > > > > 2. Venue > > ^^^^^^^^ > > > > Fess Parker's Doubletree Resort > > 633 East Cabrillo Boulevard > > Santa Barbara, CA 93103 > > USA > > Tel: +1 877 893 0892 (Free Call in US and Canada) > > Tel: +1 805 564 4333 > > Fax: +1 805 962 1814 > > http://www.fpdtr.com/ > > > > 3. Topics (tentative) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > 1) Review of the relevant group activities > > > > 2) Q.2/16 Multimedia over packet networks using H.323 systems > > > > - Progress work on: > > * Annex Gv2/H.225.0 > > * H.323 Annex N (QoS) > > * H.323 Annex O (I-net protocols) > > * H.323 Annex P "Modem Relay" > > * H.450.x new recommendations > > * H.GEF.1 (GEF Framework) > > * H.GEF.3 (Presence) > > * H.GEF.4 (Emergency Services) > > * H.225.0v5 > > * H.323v5 > > > > 3) Q.3/16 Infrastructure and interoperability for Multimedia over > > packet networks > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.245 V9 (if needed) > > * H.248 V2 > > * New H.248 packages > > * MoIP (modem over IP) as it relates to Q.3 > > > > 4) Q.4/16 Video and data conferencing using Internet-supported services > > > > - Describe service scenarios > > - Describe technical requirements > > - Elaborate the workplan > > > > 5) Q.5/16 Mobility for Multimedia Systems and Services > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.MMS.0 (General MM) > > * H.MMS.1 (H.323 Mobility) > > * H.MMS.2 (Global MM Interop) > > * H.MMS.3 (Presence) > > * H.MMS.4 (IM and Mobility Interoperability) > > > > 6) Q.D/16 Interoperability of Multimedia Systems and Services > > > > - Establishing principles for interoperability of multimedia signalling > > systems > > > > 7) Q.F/16 Quality of Service and End-to-end Performance in Multimedia > > Systems > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.qos.arch (QoS Architecture) > > * H.mmclass (Multimedia QoS Service classification) > > * H.mmcp (Call processing performance in Multimedia Systems) > > * H.priority (Techniques and procedures for controlling service > > priority) > > * H.323 Annex N (QoS signalling and control in H.323 systems) > > * H.trans.control (QoS signalling to Transport Domains) > > * H.qos.m (QoS management issues) > > * H.policy (QoS Policy Server Signalling) > > * H.resilience (Error Resilience for media codecs) > > > > 8) Q.G/16 > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.235 V3 > > * H.235 Annex F (Hybrid Security Profile) > > * H.235 Annex G (H.MMS.1 security) > > * work on emergency security services > > > > > > 8) Interaction with other groups > > > > 9) Future work plan > > > > 4. Documents > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > /// Registration of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 14 September /// > > /// Distribution of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 17 September /// > > /// Use the ftp site (or e-mail reflector) for distribution /// > > > > 1) When you are going to submit a document, please notify > > Glen Freundlich <ggf(a)avaya.com>, meeting document manager of this > > meeting, as soon as possible, by 23:59 UTC, Friday 14 September > at > > the latest. Document number AVD-nnnn will be allocated. Early > > indication of your submission plan is welcome and encouraged. > > > > Note - Prefix "AVD" comes from Audio, Video and Data. > > > > 2) You are advised to include a header as follows: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > | | > > | ITU Telecommunication Standardization Sector Document AVD-{nnnn}| > > | Study Group 16 {Version m if relevant}| > > | Q.D, F, G, 2-5/16 Rapporteur Meeting {Date}| > > | Santa Barbara, 24-28 September 2001 | > > | | > > | SOURCE*: { } | > > | TITLE : { } | > > | PURPOSE: {Proposal, Discussion, Information, Report, etc.} | > > | | > > | _________________________ | > > | | > > | | > > | | > > | *Contact: Name, e-mail | > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > 3) All the contributors are requested to distribute their documents > > as early as possible, at least 7 calendar days in advance of the > > meeting (23:59 UTC, Monday 17 September or before) by posting > them > > at either of the following: > > > > - PictureTel ftp site (please advise Mr. Freundlich of your posting) > > > > Site: standard.pictel.com/avc-site > > Login name: anonymous > > Directory: Incoming > > > > - Intel e-mail reflector > > > > e-mail address: itu-sg16(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > Please avoid the use of reflector when your document is voluminous. > > > > 4) Input documents can be retrieved from /0109_San directory of the > > ftp site. > > > > 5) The document distribution / presentation at the meeting will be > all > > electronic. Participants must bring along their laptop and > Ethernet > > card. It is recommended that participants bring an Ethernet > > cable at least 7 meters in length. > > > > 5. Logistic information > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > The meeting will be hosted by Cisco Systems and held at the > > Fess Parker's Doubletree Resort hotel in Santa Barbara, California, USA. > > > > The best way to get to Santa Barbara is to fly into the Santa Barbara > > Airport (SBA). There are convenient flights available to this airport > > from Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, Denver and Phoenix. The > > hotel is located 10 min south of the airport, using Highway 101. Car > > rentals and taxis are available at the Santa Barbara Airport. Please > > see http://www.fpdtr.com/maps.html for detailed directions to the > > hotel. Drive time from Los Angeles is 2 hours. > > > > 6. Registration > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > To register your meeting attendance, please send e-mail to > > Paul E. Jones <paulej(a)packetizer.com> specifying the name of the > > person(s) attending and the company name. Please also make your hotel > > reservations directly with the hotel. > > > > 7. Hotel Room Reservation > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > When making reservations, mention that you are attending the > > meeting hosted by Cisco Systems to get the special discounted > > room rate. > > > > The room rate is set at $155/night (including the weekend nights). > > In order to confirm this discounted rate and availability please book > > your reservation before August 31, 2001. After August 31, 2001, rooms > > and rates will be based on availability. > > > > We are looking forward to meeting with you in Santa Barbara. > > > > Sincerely yours, > > > > Tom TAYLOR > > Mike BUCKLEY > > Martin EUCHNER > > Paul JONES (meeting manager of this meeting) > > Glen FREUNDLICH > > Sakae OKUBO > > Paul REDDY > > > > ---------- > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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R:Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001
by Tosco Federico 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

It is correct and I put the same dates in the report on planned rapporteurs meeting (TD 55 Plen). It is unfortunate that the dates coincide with such an important holiday but I agree that it should have been detected before organizing the meeting. Federico Tosco > ---------- > Da: Chris Wilmot[SMTP:chris.wilmot@BT.COM] > Risposta a: chris.wilmot(a)BT.COM > Inviato: venerdì 10 agosto 2001 10.51 > A: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > Oggetto: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > <<File: PL-052.doc>> > > For information. Section 3.9.10 of the plenary meeting notes PL-052 gives > the dates of 24-28th September, location TBD. My personal notes say the > next > meeting will either be in Southern California for the week beginning 24th > September (if sponsorship from a company is confirmed), otherwise it will > be > in Geneva in either the week 3rd to 7th September, or the week 22nd to > 26th > October. > > Regards, > > Chris Wilmot > > -----Original Message----- > From: Even ,Roni [mailto:roni.even@POLYCOM.CO.IL] > Sent: 09 August 2001 21:16 > To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > Subject: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > Paul, > In brazil there was no dates specified. I think I mentioned that beginning > of September or end of October that were candidates if the meeting was to > be > in Geneva will be better due to Jewish holidays. > Roni Even > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej@PACKETIZER.COM] > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:20 AM > To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM > Subject: Re: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > Orit, > > We proposed the meeting dates at the last meeting in Brazil and nobody > objected to the dates. Unfortunately, it's too late to change the dates > at > this point. > > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Orit Levin" <orit(a)radvision.com> > To: "'Paul E. Jones'" <paulej(a)PACKETIZER.COM>; > <ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:25 PM > Subject: RE: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > Dear all! > > Have you been aware that the announced dates overlap with "Yom Kippur" > > (September 26th and 27th) which may prevent many of the interested > members > > from attending the meeting? > > > > Best Regards, > > Orit Levin > > Chief Architect > > RADVISION Inc. > > TEL: +1.201.529.4300 x 230 > > FAX: +1.201.529.3516 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej@PACKETIZER.COM] > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:23 PM > > To: ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM > > Subject: Rapporteur's Meeting, 24-28 Sept 2001 > > > > To Experts of ITU-T SG16 Questions D, F, G, 2, 3, 4 and 5/16 > > > > Cc Mr. P-A. Probst, Chairman of SG16 <probst-pa(a)bluewin.ch> > > Mr. G. Wreikat, Vice-Chairman of SG16 <wreikat(a)hotmail.com> > > Mr. F. Tosco, Chairman of WP2/16 <Federico.Tosco(a)tilab.com> > > Mr. F. Bigi, ITU-TSB <Fabio.Bigi(a)itu.int> > > Mr. L. Brown, Rapporteur Q.11/16 <Les.Brown(a)mindspeed.com> > > Mr. P. Luthi, Rapporteur for Q.1/16 <Patrick_Luthi(a)pictel.com> > > Mr. H. Wildfeuer, Cisco <hwildfeu(a)cisco.com> > > > > De T Taylor Rapporteur for Q.D/16 <taylor(a)nortelnetworks.com> > > M Buckley Rapporteur for Q.F/16 <mikebuckley(a)44comms.com> > > M Euchner Rapporteur for Q.G/16 <Martin.Euchner(a)icn.siemens.de> > > P Jones Rapporteur for Q.2/16 <paulej(a)packetizer.com> > > G Freundlich Rapporteur for Q.3/16 <ggf(a)avaya.com> > > S Okubo Rapporteur for Q.4/16 <okubo(a)giti.waseda.ac.jp> > > P Reddy Rapporteur for Q.5/16 <paul.k.reddy(a)intel.com> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Notice of Joint Rapporteur Meeting in Santa Barbara > > Date: 6 August 2001 > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Dear experts of Questions D, F, G, 2-5/16, > > > > The subject meeting of ITU-T SG16 experts will be held in Santa Barbara, > USA > > at the kind invitation of Cisco Systems. > > > > Please note that Q.11/16 will meet concurrently at the same place and > has > > joint session(s) with Q.2/16 and Q.3/16. > > > > Please note that Q.1/16 will meet concurrently and has joint session(s) > > with Q.D, F, G, 1-5. > > > > 1. Date > > ^^^^^^^ > > > > 24 (Monday) - 28 (Friday) September 2001 > > Meeting will start at 9:00 AM on the first day > > closing around 18:00 on the final day > > > > 2. Venue > > ^^^^^^^^ > > > > Fess Parker's Doubletree Resort > > 633 East Cabrillo Boulevard > > Santa Barbara, CA 93103 > > USA > > Tel: +1 877 893 0892 (Free Call in US and Canada) > > Tel: +1 805 564 4333 > > Fax: +1 805 962 1814 > > http://www.fpdtr.com/ > > > > 3. Topics (tentative) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > 1) Review of the relevant group activities > > > > 2) Q.2/16 Multimedia over packet networks using H.323 systems > > > > - Progress work on: > > * Annex Gv2/H.225.0 > > * H.323 Annex N (QoS) > > * H.323 Annex O (I-net protocols) > > * H.323 Annex P "Modem Relay" > > * H.450.x new recommendations > > * H.GEF.1 (GEF Framework) > > * H.GEF.3 (Presence) > > * H.GEF.4 (Emergency Services) > > * H.225.0v5 > > * H.323v5 > > > > 3) Q.3/16 Infrastructure and interoperability for Multimedia over > > packet networks > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.245 V9 (if needed) > > * H.248 V2 > > * New H.248 packages > > * MoIP (modem over IP) as it relates to Q.3 > > > > 4) Q.4/16 Video and data conferencing using Internet-supported services > > > > - Describe service scenarios > > - Describe technical requirements > > - Elaborate the workplan > > > > 5) Q.5/16 Mobility for Multimedia Systems and Services > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.MMS.0 (General MM) > > * H.MMS.1 (H.323 Mobility) > > * H.MMS.2 (Global MM Interop) > > * H.MMS.3 (Presence) > > * H.MMS.4 (IM and Mobility Interoperability) > > > > 6) Q.D/16 Interoperability of Multimedia Systems and Services > > > > - Establishing principles for interoperability of multimedia signalling > > systems > > > > 7) Q.F/16 Quality of Service and End-to-end Performance in Multimedia > > Systems > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.qos.arch (QoS Architecture) > > * H.mmclass (Multimedia QoS Service classification) > > * H.mmcp (Call processing performance in Multimedia Systems) > > * H.priority (Techniques and procedures for controlling service > > priority) > > * H.323 Annex N (QoS signalling and control in H.323 systems) > > * H.trans.control (QoS signalling to Transport Domains) > > * H.qos.m (QoS management issues) > > * H.policy (QoS Policy Server Signalling) > > * H.resilience (Error Resilience for media codecs) > > > > 8) Q.G/16 > > > > - Progress work on: > > * H.235 V3 > > * H.235 Annex F (Hybrid Security Profile) > > * H.235 Annex G (H.MMS.1 security) > > * work on emergency security services > > > > > > 8) Interaction with other groups > > > > 9) Future work plan > > > > 4. Documents > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > /// Registration of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 14 September /// > > /// Distribution of the document: by 23:59 UTC, 17 September /// > > /// Use the ftp site (or e-mail reflector) for distribution /// > > > > 1) When you are going to submit a document, please notify > > Glen Freundlich <ggf(a)avaya.com>, meeting document manager of this > > meeting, as soon as possible, by 23:59 UTC, Friday 14 September > at > > the latest. Document number AVD-nnnn will be allocated. Early > > indication of your submission plan is welcome and encouraged. > > > > Note - Prefix "AVD" comes from Audio, Video and Data. > > > > 2) You are advised to include a header as follows: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > | | > > | ITU Telecommunication Standardization Sector Document AVD-{nnnn}| > > | Study Group 16 {Version m if relevant}| > > | Q.D, F, G, 2-5/16 Rapporteur Meeting {Date}| > > | Santa Barbara, 24-28 September 2001 | > > | | > > | SOURCE*: { } | > > | TITLE : { } | > > | PURPOSE: {Proposal, Discussion, Information, Report, etc.} | > > | | > > | _________________________ | > > | | > > | | > > | | > > | *Contact: Name, e-mail | > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > 3) All the contributors are requested to distribute their documents > > as early as possible, at least 7 calendar days in advance of the > > meeting (23:59 UTC, Monday 17 September or before) by posting > them > > at either of the following: > > > > - PictureTel ftp site (please advise Mr. Freundlich of your posting) > > > > Site: standard.pictel.com/avc-site > > Login name: anonymous > > Directory: Incoming > > > > - Intel e-mail reflector > > > > e-mail address: itu-sg16(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > Please avoid the use of reflector when your document is voluminous. > > > > 4) Input documents can be retrieved from /0109_San directory of the > > ftp site. > > > > 5) The document distribution / presentation at the meeting will be > all > > electronic. Participants must bring along their laptop and > Ethernet > > card. It is recommended that participants bring an Ethernet > > cable at least 7 meters in length. > > > > 5. Logistic information > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > The meeting will be hosted by Cisco Systems and held at the > > Fess Parker's Doubletree Resort hotel in Santa Barbara, California, USA. > > > > The best way to get to Santa Barbara is to fly into the Santa Barbara > > Airport (SBA). There are convenient flights available to this airport > > from Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, Denver and Phoenix. The > > hotel is located 10 min south of the airport, using Highway 101. Car > > rentals and taxis are available at the Santa Barbara Airport. Please > > see http://www.fpdtr.com/maps.html for detailed directions to the > > hotel. Drive time from Los Angeles is 2 hours. > > > > 6. Registration > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > To register your meeting attendance, please send e-mail to > > Paul E. Jones <paulej(a)packetizer.com> specifying the name of the > > person(s) attending and the company name. Please also make your hotel > > reservations directly with the hotel. > > > > 7. Hotel Room Reservation > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > When making reservations, mention that you are attending the > > meeting hosted by Cisco Systems to get the special discounted > > room rate. > > > > The room rate is set at $155/night (including the weekend nights). > > In order to confirm this discounted rate and availability please book > > your reservation before August 31, 2001. After August 31, 2001, rooms > > and rates will be based on availability. > > > > We are looking forward to meeting with you in Santa Barbara. > > > > Sincerely yours, > > > > Tom TAYLOR > > Mike BUCKLEY > > Martin EUCHNER > > Paul JONES (meeting manager of this meeting) > > Glen FREUNDLICH > > Sakae OKUBO > > Paul REDDY > > > > ---------- > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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AW: H.235 -rejectReason
by Euchner Martin 14 Aug '01

14 Aug '01

Silvy, in both cases the answer is Yes. Kind Regards, Martin Euchner. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dipl.-Inf. Phone: +49 89 722 55790 | Martin Euchner Fax : +49 89 722 46841 | Siemens AG | ICN M SR 3 mailto:Martin.Euchner@icn.siemens.de | mailto:martin.euchner@ties.itu.int | Hofmannstr. 51 Intranet: | D-81359 Muenchen Internet: http://www.siemens.de | __________________ | Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Urspr> üngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Silvy Samuel [SMTP:ssilvy@HSS.HNS.COM] > Gesendet am: Montag, 6. August 2001 13:19 > An: ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM > Betreff: H.235 -rejectReason > > Hi, > > > In case of an unsecured endpoint sending a RAS/H.225 message to GK , > what should the reject Reason be? Is it correct if RAS messages from > unsecured EPs also are rejected by GK with securityDenial, and H.225 > messages with releaseComplete with reason security Denied)? > > Thanks and Regards, > Silvy. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to > listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv(a)mailbag.intel.com

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