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Re: Encoding agreement & Interim meeting
by Christian Groves 21 Jul '99

21 Jul '99

I would agree with Bob below in that the vast majority of telecommunications networks binary is used as an encoding method, its efficient, its tested, debugged and interoperates but as mentioned elsewhere they're old arguments but VERY valid. I think we need to understand the scope of the H.GGP/248 protocol. Its not just H.323 or SIP networks. The media controller and media gateway architecture and the 'vertical protocol' which it infers has now been adopted by many groups/forums. These include: o MSF who have previously put in requirements on this group o SG16 H.323 o ITU SG11 are working on Bearer independant call control BICC which will need a vertical protocol in the near future o ANSI T1S1 BICC o ETSI SPS1 BICC o Will be used in 3rd Generation Mobile networks These groups have successully worked with binary protocols. o IETF MMUSIC SIP Work with text. o Cable labs <- already chosen MGCP??? o Switch Switch <- already chosen MGCP I think that we should be looking at the medium to long term future of this protocol. If it is to be WIDELY adopted by all groups above then we should be looking at the efficiency and interwork reasons primarily NOT that it only takes 2 weeks, 10 pizzas and a 6 pack to implement and its easy to debug at 3 in the morning. I also think that it is unwise to let a 'toss of a coin' decide the direction that was taken with regards to encoding on H.HCP/248 in this light. Regards, Christian Bob Bell wrote: > > Brian - > > Comments below. > > At 04:06 PM 7/19/99 , Brian Rosen wrote: > >Sorry, you just indeed walked into the sticky part. > > > >There are claims that in fact, the text encoding is SMALLER than > binary > >encoding for > >the kinds of messages we will encounter. This is based on > observation of > >similar > >protocols. > > There may in fact be such claims but in the various communications > protocols I have personally dealt with, it has not been the case. > If someone could point me to some observational data, I would be most > grateful. However, I it still my considered opinion, at this time, > that there is a bias in size toward the text based messaging having > more octets of information. > > > > >Our current consensus opinion is that the difference is almost > certainly in > >the +/- 20% range. That would make encryption arguments pretty > moot. > > A 10% bias, that being the median of your count, means that you can > support 10% less control streams or that your cost is increased 10% > per control stream. That seems to be a significant number to me. > Particularly in the realm of high density environments. > > > > >I assume you did not mean to suggest that text was any more or less > secure; > >just that > >if the messages were bigger, the encryption load would be bigger. > > I agree that there is no diference in the "security" aspect of text vs > binary. > > > > >I will point out that encryption is done over a fixed size datum, > typically > >8 bytes. > >Thus the increment of encryption work is not simply linear. If you > have 9 > >bytes, it > >takes as long to encrypt 10, 11, 12, ... or even 16 bytes (assuming > DES). > >Small > >variations thus have even less effect on encryption speed. > > Assuming that you are correct that the message length is 10% longer > for one form of message. If a typical message is on the order of 100 > octets in length (in view of the Megaco packaging into transactions > and contexts, this is not an unreasonable number), and assuming that > you are using a DES style encryption which uses a block size of 64 > bits or 8 octets, a 100 octet message must be padded to be 104 octets > in length. This requires 13 complete encryption blocks. Adding an > additional 10 octets increases the number of blocks to 14. That is a > 7.7% increase in encryption blocks. While this is no the 10% discussed > above, it is still non-trivial in a large volume project where the > cost is a high consideration. > > > > >Brian > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Bob Bell [mailto:rtbell@cisco.com] > >Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 5:43 PM > >To: MEGACO(a)standards.nortelnetworks.com > >Subject: Re: Encoding agreement & Interim meeting > > > > > >It is not my intent to step into an obviously religious war relative > to text > >vs. binary encoding. I would just like to remind the readers on this > list > >that for the purposes of privacy and security on the control > channels, text > >messages typically contain more octets of "plaintext" which must be > >encrypted and decrypted than do binary messages containing the same > level of > >control information. While for workstations and similar devices, this > load > >may be perceived as being a trivial addition, if you are making an > MGC and > >are planning to have hundreds or perhaps thousands of simultaneous > control > >streams active, the additional processing requirements may not be as > easily > >ignored. Perhaps this is a reason to consider the binary encoding > scheme in > >a somewhat more favorable light. > > > >At 02:44 PM 7/19/99 , you wrote: > >>Matt, first off, I suspect you are still talking about the media > descriptor > >>and media capability descriptor components of the protocol. We have > agreed > >>that for these components, each group will use its own encoding, > implying > >>that the MGC must support both. As for the encoding beyond these > two > >items, > >>the conclusion we came to in the "ad hoc" meeting was that Megaco > and SG 16 > >>would always disagree on this issue. There doesn't seem to be any > way to > >>create a higher synthesis, as we could with the context connection > model. > >>As a result, the only way we could meet each other half way was to > have an > >>equal probability that one solution or the other would be chosen. I > would > >>have preferred that the coin flip be done in a combined SG 16/Megaco > >>meeting, but we had the next best thing: both Glen Freundlich (the > SG 16 > >>rapporteur responsible for H.248) and I were there. > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Michael Thomas [SMTP:mat@CISCO.COM] > >>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 3:18 PM > >>> To: megaco(a)standards.nortelnetworks.com > >>> Subject: Re: Encoding agreement & Interim meeting > >>> > >>> Matt Holdrege writes: > >>> > I guess too much is happening in the design team meetings then. > Well > >>> it's > >>> > out in the open on the list now. I'll put forward that the TLV > >>> structure > >>> > (which allows everything that each side needs) is the best way > to > >>> achieve > >>> > consensus between the IETF and ITU. If we drive too far in > either > >>> > direction, we are not following our directive. > >>> > > >>> > Since as you and others say that there is no major difference > between > >>> text > >>> > or binary, why not choose binary since it is the format that > the ITU > >>> really > >>> > wants and is quite used to. > >>> > >>> Well, text encodings is what IETF "wants and is > >>> quite used to." There are good reasons to use text > >>> such as ease of implementation, debugging, and > >>> interoperability. Thus far nobody's put out any > >>> compelling advantage of a binary encoding over a > >>> text encoding. > >>> > >>> > The result is that we will have a single interoperable standard > and no > >>> one > >>> > can say that it presents any engineering problems. Right? > >>> > > >>> > Since you've chosen text in this ad-hoc meeting, you are almost > >>> > guaranteeing lack of a single standard. > >>> > >>> Let me understand this: are you saying that if > >>> text encoding of the MEGACO *protocol* is choosen > >>> (as it was), that SG16 will pick up its toys and > >>> go home? > >>> > >>> Mike > > > >Bob Bell > >Distinguished Member of the Technical Staff > >Cisco Systems Inc. > >801-294-3034(v) > >801-294-3023(f) > Bob Bell > Distinguished Member of the Technical Staff > Cisco Systems Inc. > 801-294-3034(v) > 801-294-3023(f)

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I want to subscribe to your study group.
by ＠L?5=E 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

Hi. I'm Youngsin Lee at LGIC S/W Lab in Korea. I heard your H.323 study group from my fellow worker. Please inform me how I can subscribe to the study group. Thank you.

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Uploaded Files
by Callaghan, Robert 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

The following documents have been uploaded to picturtel/incoming: APC-1583 APC-1585 APC-1586 APC-1587 APC-1588 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert Callaghan Siemens Business Communication Systems Tel: +1.561.997.3756 Fax: +1.561.997.3403 Email: Robert.Callaghan(a)ICN.Siemens.com ------------------------------------------------------------------

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subscribe
by Burkert Frank 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

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Contributions for the Berlin meeting
by Sakae OKUBO 20 Jul '99

20 Jul '99

Dear Q.12-14/16 experts, Attached please find an update of the list of contributions for the Berlin meeting. Please be reminded that the deadline of contribution submission is as follows: /// Registration of the document: by 23 July (Friday) /// /// Distribution of the document: by 26 July (Monday) /// Please also be reminded of the following note we confirmed at the Torino meeting in November 1998 (see APC-1485): "The meeting notes that contributors are requested to upload the documents on time, otherwise their proposals can legitimately be rejected on the ground that the group members lack reviewing time." Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** Documents for Q.12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting in Berlin (2-6 August 1999) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ APC- Source Title ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1555 ITU-T SG8 Recommendation T.38 Indications in Recommendation H.245 (TD1/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1556 ITU-T SG11 Support of IN services for H.323 and other IP Network based terminals (TD4/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1557 ITU-T SG9 Draft New Rec. J.Web "Distribution of Sound and Television Programmes over the Internet "Webcasting"" (TD22/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1558 ITU-T SG2 Routing of Multimedia Connections When Interworking with PSTN, ATM, and IP Networks (TD24/GEN of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1559 SG16 WP2 Proposed Organisation going forward to new Study Period 1560 Editor (E Martinez) Annex-H (User and Service Mobility in H.323) Proposed Architecture 1561 Editor (G Hellstrom) H.323 Annex G Text Conversation and Text SET 1562 L M Ericsson H.gcp Modification proposals for Text Conversation 1563 L M Ericsson First draft of a H.246 Annex for text conversation and text telephony 1564 L M Ericsson H.224 Modified for text conversation 1565 (P Jones) T.35 (1999) country codes 1566 Editor H.243 Draft revised ITU-T Recommendation H.243 (white doc.) 1567 L M Ericsson Generic Service ControlTransport 1568 Lucent and H.245 Generic Capabilities Definition and AT&T H.225 Packetization Specification for the North American Cellular/PCS TDMA Vocoders (ACELP and US1) 1569 BT and Tech- Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Know-Ware Implementer's Guide 1570 BT and Tech- Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Know-Ware 1571 Rapporteur for Q.12/16 (S Okubo) Status of Draft Amendment 7 to H.222.0|ISO/IEC 13818-1 -- Carriage of ISO/IEC 14496 (MPEG-4) content over H.222.0|ISO/IEC 13818-1 (MPEG-2) System streams 1572 Editor (K Sakai) Draft Implementor's Guide for H.321 V2 1573 Editor (S Okubo) Draft Implementor's Guide for H.310 V2 1574 SG16 Correspondence Representative to DAVIC (S Okubo) DAVIC work on TV Anytime and TV Anywhere systems 1575 Rapporteur for Q.19/16 (S Hayashi) H.245 Generic Capability Definition and H.225.0 Packetization Specification for G.729 1576 Japan Guideline for assigning the T.35 terminal provider codes in Japan 1577 Oki et al Proposed modifications to resolve the inconsistent ASN.1 syntaxes between T.38 Annex B and H.245 1578 Oki et al Proposed additional liasion to SG8 on T.38 Appnedix II 1579 Hitachi, Ltd. Prototype system of H.262 layered video transmission 1580 Nortel Networks Media Gateway control protocol architecture and requirements ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Output of your job "kdeng"
by Kate Deng 19 Jul '99

19 Jul '99

I have been trying to subscribe to SG16 since last Friday but have been rejected each time for the same reason as follow. Should I keep trying or am I not subscribing to SG16 correctly ? Please advise. Thanks. Kate Deng (Alcatel USA) ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From MAILER-DAEMON Mon Jul 19 08:58:56 1999 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:59:36 -0700 From: "L-Soft list server at Intel Corporation (1.8c)" <LISTSERV(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> Subject: Output of your job "kdeng" To: kdeng(a)ssd.usa.alcatel.com > subscribe itu-sg16 Sorry, the ITU-SG16 list has been locked since 99/07/15 11:15 by greg.w.meyer(a)INTEL.COM. Try again later and contact the list owner if the condition persists. Summary of resource utilization ------------------------------- CPU time: 0.000 sec Device I/O: 0 Overhead CPU: 0.002 sec Paging I/O: 0 CPU model: Pentium Pro (128M) ----- End Included Message -----

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Presentation
by Paul Sijben 19 Jul '99

19 Jul '99

I have uploaded my presentation of last thursday at http://pages.hotbot.com/edu/sijben/images/megaco45.ppt Paul -- Paul Sijben Tel:+31 35 687 4774 Lucent Technologies Fax:+31 35 687 5954 Forward Looking Work mailto:sijben@lucent.com Huizen, The Netherlands http://voip.nl.lucent.com/sijben (internal)

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Re: APC document numbers
by Mickey Nasiri (ETX) 19 Jul '99

19 Jul '99

Dear Mr. Okubo, Unfortunately Mr. Hellstrom can not attend the Berlin meeting. I will present his documents but the document number APC-1563 (First draft of a H.246 Annex for text conversation and text telephony) is not ready for presentation. Please cancel this document number. Best regards //Mickey Nasiri -- //Mickey Nasiri Ericsson Telecom AB Home Communications SE-126 25 STOCKHOLM Tel: +46-8-719 38 61 Mob: +46-70-319 38 61 email: mickey.nasiri(a)ericsson.com

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APC Document Number
by Noriko Hosokawa 19 Jul '99

19 Jul '99

Dear Mr.Rex Coldren In responce to your request, APC-1581,1582 have been allocated to your contribution. APC-1581 > Source: Lucent Technologies and Nortel Networks > Title: H.323 v3 and H.225 v3 Support for Improved Alias Registrations APC-1582 > Source: Lucent Technologies > Title: H.323 v3 and H.225 v3 Endpoint Registration Clarifications Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** Documents for Q.12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting in Berlin (2-6 August 1999) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ APC- Source Title ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1555 ITU-T SG8 Recommendation T.38 Indications in Recommendation H.245 (TD1/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1556 ITU-T SG11 Support of IN services for H.323 and other IP Network based terminals (TD4/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1557 ITU-T SG9 Draft New Rec. J.Web "Distribution of Sound and Television Programmes over the Internet "Webcasting"" (TD22/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1558 ITU-T SG2 Routing of Multimedia Connections When Interworking with PSTN, ATM, and IP Networks (TD24/GEN of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1559 SG16 WP2 Proposed Organisation going forward to new Study Period 1560 Editor (E Martinez) Annex-H (User and Service Mobility in H.323) Proposed Architecture 1561 Editor (G Hellstrom) H.323 Annex G Text Conversation and Text SET 1562 L M Ericsson H.gcp Modification proposals for Text Conversation 1563 L M Ericsson First draft of a H.246 Annex for text conversation and text telephony 1564 L M Ericsson H.224 Modified for text conversation 1565 (P Jones) T.35 (1999) country codes 1566 Editor H.243 Draft revised ITU-T Recommendation H.243 (white doc.) 1567 L M Ericsson Generic Service ControlTransport 1568 Lucent and H.245 Generic Capabilities Definition and AT&T H.225 Packetization Specification for the North American Cellular/PCS TDMA Vocoders (ACELP and US1) 1569 BT and Tech- Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Know-Ware Implementer's Guide 1570 BT and Tech- Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Know-Ware 1571 Rapporteur for Q.12/16 (S Okubo) Status of Draft Amendment 7 to H.222.0|ISO/IEC 13818-1 -- Carriage of ISO/IEC 14496 (MPEG-4) content over H.222.0|ISO/IEC 13818-1 (MPEG-2) System streams 1572 Editor (K Sakai) Draft Implementor's Guide for H.321 V2 1573 Editor (S Okubo) Draft Implementor's Guide for H.310 V2 1574 SG16 Correspondence Representative to DAVIC (S Okubo) DAVIC work on TV Anytime and TV Anywhere systems 1575 Rapporteur for Q.19/16 (S Hayashi) H.245 Generic Capability Definition and H.225.0 Packetization Specification for G.729 1576 Japan Guideline for assigning the T.35 terminal provider codes in Japan 1577 Oki et al Proposed modifications to resolve the inconsistent ASN.1 syntaxes between T.38 Annex B and H.245 1578 Oki et al Proposed additional liasion to SG8 on T.38 Appnedix II 1579 Hitachi, Ltd. Prototype system of H.262 layered video transmission 1580 Nortel Networks Media Gateway control protocol architecture and requirements 1581 Lucent Technologies and Nortel Networks H.323 v3 and H.225 v3 Support for Improved Alias Registrations 1582 Lucent Technologies H.323 v3 and H.225 v3 Endpoint Registration Clarifications ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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ITU-SG16 Mail List Re-enabled
by Meyer, Greg W 15 Jul '99

15 Jul '99

Hi All: I have re-enabled the ITU-SG16 mail list for public postings. I turned off public postings temporarily due to a message looping condition Monday night (US west coast time). I considered keeping the list "private" where postings are open only to those subscribed to the list (there's an open subscription policy). But it turns out there's a problem with embedded mail lists where individuals who are on a company mail list that is on the ITU-SG16 mail list. Those individuals would not be able to post to the ITU-SG16 mail list if it were kept "private." I will see if any other measures can be taken to reduce the exposure to mail loops. Thanks for your patients. Greg Meyer Intel Corporation mailto:greg.w.meyer@intel.com +1.503.264.9506

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Summary of Megaco Meeting Results
by Tom-PT Taylor 15 Jul '99

15 Jul '99

This is a report on what has happened here in Oslo from the syntax design team meeting Tuesday morning through the full working group meeting this morning. The activities of later Tuesday and Wednesday were controversial, so I am documenting them fairly extensively. Syntax Design Team Meeting The Tuesday morning syntax design team meeting had a number of proposals to consider. We achieved two quick conclusions: not to consider ODL as our syntax specification language, and to split the Audit command into two separate commands, one to discover capabilities, the other to determine existing status. With regard to the ODL contribution, I would like to take note of the hard work which M. Anquetil and his colleagues put into devising complete Megaco syntax specifications not only in ODL but also in ASN.1. >From this beginning we went on to consider a key issue: capability specification syntax, with the Ott and Huitema drafts as our prime source material. We found that the proposal by Ott et al provided one advance on SDP: the ability to include quantitative constraints. Matt Holdrege also pointed out that Tag-Length-Value syntax in the Ott proposal as taken up in the syntax draft by Rosen et al offered the advantage that it would be simple for service providers to modify values in the MG's capability database, the way they modify values for RADIUS. Christian Huitema and Joerg Ott more or less agreed that their respective approaches were equivalent with respect to the expression of mutually exclusive alternatives. At the point where we began to be very interested in the proposal by Ott et al, we realized that, given that it was meant to be a substitute for SDP, our development of it would be an infringement on the mandate of MMUSIC. We ended up concluding that the constraints of the situation required us instead to specify that the MGC MUST in the short term support two different systems for media description and media capabilities: one based on SDP and one to be specified by SG 16 and presumably kinder to H.245. The choice of which system to use would be up to the MG and could be audited as an MG capability. We would reserve room for evolution to a new capability description protocol if one should be produced by MMUSIC. As part of this discussion, we considered the general question of Megaco syntax and whether it should be the Tag-Length-Value system proposed by Rosen et al (which, it was noted, is actually X.409 encoding reinvented). We were unable to come to a consensus on this topic. The meeting ended, as you might expect, with a cry of despair from Brian Rosen. Follow-Up Meeting Another meeting was hastily organized, to take place Tuesday night. It was organized after the first meeting had broken up and was announced by a note on the bulletin board, which meant that word did not reach all members of the design team in time for them to change their plans for the evening. Most but not all of the twenty-odd people in the morning meeting also attended the one in the evening. The evening meeting spent most of its time on the text vs. binary encoding issue in all its variants. The clear consensus of those present was that there were two irreconciliable camps: the IETF consensus would be in favour of text, the SG 16 consensus in favour of binary, regardless of benchmark results. This meant that we had an impasse. The suggestion was made that we toss a coin. This seemed to be the only credible way out of the impasse, so I did so. The "text encoding" side came up. The meeting broke up immediately following this result. Derivation Of EBNF On Wednesday Brian Rosen and Glen Freundlich, acting in place of Bryan Hill, started the work of implementing EBNF syntax descriptions in line with the conclusions of the previous day. They had help from a number of individuals along the way, but this was in effect an editorial exercise starting from the EBNF in draft-ietf-megaco-protocol-01.txt and the parameters shown in the H.GCP draft rather than any sort of design team meeting. The results as presented in this morning's working group meeting were fairly complete. Working Group Meeting As per the previously published agenda, slightly rearranged, the meeting covered three topics: syntax, transport, and packages. Discussion of work plan fell off the end. The syntax discussion began with my presentation of the design team results. Here is my summary as presented to the working group meeting: * Agreed: split Audit into two commands * status discovery * capability discovery * Stymied: new media description and media capability syntax may infringe on MMUSIC (and maybe CONNEG) charters. Hence to be equally fair to SIP and H.323: * MGC must support both SDP and SG 16-determined encoding of H.245 * MG may support either * reserve possibility of migration to new syntax. * Political impasse on encoding. Decided for text by flipping a coin. Issue is relative value of development speed vs. performance. The final point on encoding is problematic, in that the conclusion was reached by a group that was convened without, some will maintain, adequate notice. I hope that I did not improperly influence the working group by presenting this point with the same authority as the earlier points. In any event, the working group appeared to be pleased with the outcome. This ends the controversial part of this summary of results. The rest will be presented more briefly, pending Matt Holdrege's drafting of the minutes. Syntax: discussed use of the application-level Authentication Header and concluded that it would remain an option for use when IPSEC is unavailable. The use of SDP and of other protocols for media description and media capability description will be documented in separate RFCs, one per protocol. Transport: determined a consensus in favour of mandatory support of both TCP and application layer framing in the MGC, with the choice being determined by the MG when it initiates an association. Packages: an editorial team (Mike Kallas and Christian Huitema) was appointed to draft IANA considerations for adding new packages. Package descriptions include termination properties as well as events and signals. One RFC, normatively referenced from the base protocol document, will document the basic Megaco starter set of packages; others can be added through IANA according to the documented procedures. Study Group 16 can also generate package descriptions, probably by adding them as annexes to H.248 (AKA H.GCP). I spoke in the meeting of going to working group and possibly IETF last call in September, before the ITU commits H.248 to ballot. Less optimistic individuals have suggested a joint Megaco/Q.14/16 meeting on the east coast of North America, the week of Sept. 13. Discussions on this point are welcome. Tom Taylor Advisor -- IPConnect Standards E-mail: taylor(a)nortelnetworks.com (internally, Tom-PT Taylor) Phone and FAX: +1 613 736 0961

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Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide
by Jean-Francois Mule 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

Context: The implementer's guide (revision D), section 6.2.19 states: "If this information is supplied, an endpoint should retransmit the request to one of the alternate gatekeepers listed". It is also specified that this correction should be applied to 7.8.3 (GRJ), 7.9.3 (RRJ), 7.10.3 (URJ), 7.11.3 (ARJ), 7.12.3(BRJ), 7.13.3(LRJ), 7.14.3 (DRJ), and 7.15.3 (IACK). Editorial comments: 0. IACK does not include altGKInfo ==> 7.15.3 (IACK) should be replaced by 7.15.4 (INAK) which contains altGKInfo Request for comments: 1. The correction is understandable for GRJ, RRJ 2. In the case of altGKInfo received in ARJ for example, some additional clarification would be welcome. Indeed, the endpoint cannot retransmit the request (ARQ) before it has registered successfully with one of the alternate gatekeepers. This comment is also valid for URJ, BRJ, LRJ, DRJ, INAK 3. In the case of a DRJ message (endpoint is being dropped, sends DRQ, gets back DRJ with altGKInfo), should the endpoint register with one of the alternate gatekeepers to send a DRQ message right away? 4. In the case of a gateway endpoint with multiple ports, how should these messages be handled when calls are active? Thank you in advance for any comments, regards Jean-François -------------------------------------------------------- Jean-François Mulé Standards & Architecture Group Clarent Corporation Tel: +1 650 481-2835 700 Chesapeake Drive Fax: +1 650 817-3950 Redwood City, CA 94063 jfmule(a)clarent.com http://www.clarent.com

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Question on RAS ICV (Integrity Check Value) (fwd)
by Aseem Agarwal 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

Since i received no responses for my question regarding RAS ICV handling, can i assume that most (if not all) H.323 compliant implementations do not use RAS ICVs ? It is an optional IE in all RAS messages. If anyone knows of implementations using this functionality, please reply back. Any leads/pointers would be appreciated. thanks aseem(a)trillium.com Forwarded message: > From aseem(a)trillium.com Tue Jul 13 09:48 PDT 1999 > From: aseem(a)trillium.com (Aseem Agarwal) > Message-Id: <199907131659.JAA07327(a)arathorn.trillium.com.trillium.com> > Subject: Question on RAS ICV (Integrity Check Value) > To: h323implementors(a)imtc.org, ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:59:30 -0700 (PDT) > Cc: aseem(a)trillium.com (Aseem Agarwal) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Length: 477 > > Hi > Sometime back there was a thread of discussion on the RAS ICV. I > tried to download the previous message digests. But i did not find > any decisive mails for future H.323 versions. Can u please tell me > how do the present implementations handle ICV generation and ICV > verification (at the receiving side) ? I can only think of > re-encoding/ decoding the message, which i think shall be a big > processing overhead. > > Thanks in anticipation, > aseem(a)trillium.com >

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Re: test - ignore
by Illikkal, Ramesh G 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

-----Original Message----- From: Illikkal, Ramesh G Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 10:11 AM To: 'itu-sg16(a)mailbag.intel.com' Subject: test - ignore

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Temporary Lock on ITU-SG16 List
by Meyer, Greg W 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

Due to a loop condition between two automated responding servers, the ITU-SG16 list and a mail system adminstration server, the ITU-SG16 is temporarily locked. Only those who are subscribed to the list can post to it. I'll wait until it looks like it's cleared out of the system to re-enable non-subscribers to post. Sorry to have filled your inboxes. Thanks, Greg Meyer Intel Corporation mailto:greg.w.meyer@intel.com +1.503.264.9506

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by Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

ImCr ÖÛI£ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091DE@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140647590953 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2C6>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:48:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091DE@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:48:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:31:02 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:47:59 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140631.XAA12504(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:31:02 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr )ºM ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313007@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140626360562 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2C3>; 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Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:17:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FFB@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:17:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:44 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:17:07 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140501.WAA09702(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr àhÔÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B1@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140457180312 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH0P>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:57:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B1@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:57:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:41:23 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:57:18 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140441.VAA09229(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:41:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr CüÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AF0@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140436590015 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH01>; 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Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:00:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AEB@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:00:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:38:00 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:00:34 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140338.UAA08384(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:38:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr Ó!ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FEF@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140333330234 M -vsc00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH9B>; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:33:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FEF@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:33:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:13:20 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:33:33 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140313.UAA08037(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:13:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr µª¯ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142E9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140308520625 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH8X>; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:08:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142E9@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:08:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:54:44 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:08:52 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140254.TAA07915(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:54:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr é| ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0A5@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140250180656 M nce-00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>m>.comEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH8L>; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0A5@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:50:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:24:37 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:50:18 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140224.TAA07579(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:24:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr Üiá}ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: APC document number<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AE0@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140220110656 M ce-6 <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>comEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH7R>; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:20:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AE0@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: APC document number Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:20:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: APC document number Sent: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:56:16 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:20:11 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <005801becd9c$0fa4bf80$ee3989d2(a)giti.or.jp> From: Noriko Hosokawa <nonko(a)GITI.OR.JP> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: APC document number Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 21:56:16 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Dear Mr.Nilsson In response to your request, APC-1569 and APC-1570 have been allocated to your contribution. APC-1569 > Source : BT and Tech-Know-Ware > Title : Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Implementer's Guide APC-1570 > Source : BT and Tech-Know-Ware > Title : Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** Documents for Q.12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting in Berlin (2-6 August 1999) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ APC- Source Title ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1555 ITU-T SG8 Recommendation T.38 Indications in Recommendation H.245 (TD1/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1556 ITU-T SG11 Support of IN services for H.323 and other IP Network based terminals (TD4/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1557 ITU-T SG9 Draft New Rec. J.Web "Distribution of Sound and Television Programmes over the Internet "Webcasting"" (TD22/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1558 ITU-T SG2 Routing of Multimedia Connections When Interworking with PSTN, ATM, and IP Networks (TD24/GEN of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1559 SG16 WP2 Proposed Organisation going forward to new Study Period 1560 Editor (E Martinez) Annex-H (User and Service Mobility in H.323) Proposed Architecture 1561 Editor (G Hellstrom) H.323 Annex G Text Conversation and Text SET 1562 L M Ericsson H.gcp Modification proposals for Text Conversation 1563 L M Ericsson First draft of a H.246 Annex for text conversation and text telephony 1564 L M Ericsson H.224 Modified for text conversation 1565 (P Jones) T.35 (1999) country codes 1566 Editor H.243 Draft revised ITU-T Recommendation H.243 (white doc.) 1567 L M Ericsson Generic Service ControlTransport 1568 Lucent and H.245 Generic Capabilities Definition and AT&T H.225 Packetization Specification for the North American Cellular/PCS TDMA Vocoders (ACELP and US1) 1569 BT and Tech- Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Know-Ware Implementer's Guide 1570 BT and Tech- Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Know-Ware ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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ImCr ;h ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0BF@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140627200812 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CQ>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:27:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0BF@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:27:24 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:15:45 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:27:20 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140615.XAA11801(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:15:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr Ð ¯+ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2BD@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140611220031 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CG>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2BD@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:00:32 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:22 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140600.XAA11257(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:00:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr `y ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0B9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140556050812 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2BN>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0B9@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:10 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:44:45 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:05 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140544.WAA10799(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:44:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr Ð ×ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B7@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140540210312 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2A7>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B7@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:28:07 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:21 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140528.WAA10335(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:28:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091CF@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140523400546 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2AM>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091CF@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:11:15 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:40 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140511.WAA09890(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:11:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: 6 ImCr xÚ(ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while!<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FF9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140506490984 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH09>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FF9@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:49 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <v0401010fb3b1ca441136(a)giti.or.jp> From: Sakae OKUBO <okubo(a)GITI.OR.JP> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Dear All, As you see in your mailbox, error messages are circulating between the reflector and System Administrator<postmaster(a)Ganymede.com>. I am afraid this message would cause another circulation and accumulation, but please stop posting your message until the problem is removed. Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp ***********************************************************

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by Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

ImCr @€ÃRÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AFE@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140619370015 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CK>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:19:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AFE@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:19:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:07:59 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:19:37 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140607.XAA11547(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:07:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: 8 ImCr `¿O ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313005@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140603340031 M <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2B5>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313005@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:51:12 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:34 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <001101becdbc$e4eb1570$d05467d8(a)pacbell.net> From: Jean-Francois Mule <jfmule(a)CLARENT.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:51:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Context: The implementer's guide (revision D), section 6.2.19 states: "If this information is supplied, an endpoint should retransmit the request to one of the alternate gatekeepers listed". It is also specified that this correction should be applied to 7.8.3 (GRJ), 7.9.3 (RRJ), 7.10.3 (URJ), 7.11.3 (ARJ), 7.12.3(BRJ), 7.13.3(LRJ), 7.14.3 (DRJ), and 7.15.3 (IACK). Editorial comments: 0. IACK does not include altGKInfo ==> 7.15.3 (IACK) should be replaced by 7.15.4 (INAK) which contains altGKInfo Request for comments: 1. The correction is understandable for GRJ, RRJ 2. In the case of altGKInfo received in ARJ for example, some additional clarification would be welcome. Indeed, the endpoint cannot retransmit the request (ARQ) before it has registered successfully with one of the alternate gatekeepers. This comment is also valid for URJ, BRJ, LRJ, DRJ, INAK 3. In the case of a DRJ message (endpoint is being dropped, sends DRQ, gets back DRJ with altGKInfo), should the endpoint register with one of the alternate gatekeepers to send a DRQ message right away? 4. In the case of a gateway endpoint with multiple ports, how should these messages be handled when calls are active? Thank you in advance for any comments, regards Jean-François -------------------------------------------------------- Jean-François Mulé Standards & Architecture Group Clarent Corporation Tel: +1 650 481-2835 700 Chesapeake Drive Fax: +1 650 817-3950 Redwood City, CA 94063 jfmule(a)clarent.com http://www.clarent.com

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by Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

ImCr Ð£â,ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091DA@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140611220453 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CH>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091DA@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:57:01 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:22 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140557.WAA11141(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:57:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr ðÅ°ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313001@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140552360359 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2BG>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:52:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313001@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:52:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:41:04 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:52:36 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140541.WAA10706(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:41:04 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr :SÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142FB@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140536370156 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2AV>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142FB@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:36:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:24:21 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:36:37 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140524.WAA10214(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:24:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr *býÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142F8@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140519550718 M <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2A2>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:19:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142F8@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:19:58 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:55 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:19:55 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140506.WAA09770(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:55 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr PüÐÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142F4@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140502280937 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH05>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:02:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013142F4@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:02:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:45:33 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:02:28 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140445.VAA09282(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:45:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr <ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0AE@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140441060656 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH0G>; 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(ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: Re: H.323 call over gateway question<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AEE@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140423490656 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH99>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:23:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AEE@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Re: H.323 call over gateway question Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:23:54 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: H.323 call over gateway question Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:05:17 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:23:49 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <003001becdae$193e7600$e1ee558b(a)ddw.hss.hns.com> From: Ravi Kiran Valmikam <vrkiran(a)MAILANDNEWS.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: H.323 call over gateway question Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:05:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Geng <christian.geng(a)DETEWE.DE> > Dear Sir or Madame, > > We want to setup a call from a H.323 terminal to an endpoint placed in > the PBX. This call should be via gatekeeper. Shoul first a setup been > done to the gatekeeper? No. It should start off with ARQ. >How can the endpoint (callee) on the other side > of the gatekeeper be addressed? Terminal should send an ARQ to the GK with the alias or PBX terminal number. GK will either give the terminal an H.225 Call Signaling Transport Address of the GW or itself(GK) in ACF. Terminal shall simply send a Setup on that address. >When we do first the setup to the > gatekeeper, we will put in the H.225.0 Setup-UUI/destinationAddress the > AliasAddress of the gatekeeper. Is this right? No. You will fill the destination endpoint address(alias or PBX number) and send it to GK. >And were can we put in > the address of the PBX endpoint (callee)? > Thanks If you are talking about Gatekeeper Routed Calling, please refer to section 8, esp 8.2 of H.323. 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ImCr Ð ¯+ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2BD@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140611220031 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CG>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2BD@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:00:32 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:22 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140600.XAA11257(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:00:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr `y ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0B9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140556050812 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2BN>; 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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:49 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <v0401010fb3b1ca441136(a)giti.or.jp> From: Sakae OKUBO <okubo(a)GITI.OR.JP> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Dear All, As you see in your mailbox, error messages are circulating between the reflector and System Administrator<postmaster(a)Ganymede.com>. 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APC-1569 > Source : BT and Tech-Know-Ware > Title : Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Implementer's Guide APC-1570 > Source : BT and Tech-Know-Ware > Title : Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** Documents for Q.12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting in Berlin (2-6 August 1999) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ APC- Source Title ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1555 ITU-T SG8 Recommendation T.38 Indications in Recommendation H.245 (TD1/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1556 ITU-T SG11 Support of IN services for H.323 and other IP Network based terminals (TD4/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1557 ITU-T SG9 Draft New Rec. J.Web "Distribution of Sound and Television Programmes over the Internet "Webcasting"" (TD22/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1558 ITU-T SG2 Routing of Multimedia Connections When Interworking with PSTN, ATM, and IP Networks (TD24/GEN of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1559 SG16 WP2 Proposed Organisation going forward to new Study Period 1560 Editor (E Martinez) Annex-H (User and Service Mobility in H.323) Proposed Architecture 1561 Editor (G Hellstrom) H.323 Annex G Text Conversation and Text SET 1562 L M Ericsson H.gcp Modification proposals for Text Conversation 1563 L M Ericsson First draft of a H.246 Annex for text conversation and text telephony 1564 L M Ericsson H.224 Modified for text conversation 1565 (P Jones) T.35 (1999) country codes 1566 Editor H.243 Draft revised ITU-T Recommendation H.243 (white doc.) 1567 L M Ericsson Generic Service ControlTransport 1568 Lucent and H.245 Generic Capabilities Definition and AT&T H.225 Packetization Specification for the North American Cellular/PCS TDMA Vocoders (ACELP and US1) 1569 BT and Tech- Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Know-Ware Implementer's Guide 1570 BT and Tech- Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Know-Ware ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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8 ImCr `¿O ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313005@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140603340031 M <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2B5>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313005@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:51:12 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:34 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <001101becdbc$e4eb1570$d05467d8(a)pacbell.net> From: Jean-Francois Mule <jfmule(a)CLARENT.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:51:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Context: The implementer's guide (revision D), section 6.2.19 states: "If this information is supplied, an endpoint should retransmit the request to one of the alternate gatekeepers listed". It is also specified that this correction should be applied to 7.8.3 (GRJ), 7.9.3 (RRJ), 7.10.3 (URJ), 7.11.3 (ARJ), 7.12.3(BRJ), 7.13.3(LRJ), 7.14.3 (DRJ), and 7.15.3 (IACK). Editorial comments: 0. IACK does not include altGKInfo ==> 7.15.3 (IACK) should be replaced by 7.15.4 (INAK) which contains altGKInfo Request for comments: 1. The correction is understandable for GRJ, RRJ 2. In the case of altGKInfo received in ARJ for example, some additional clarification would be welcome. Indeed, the endpoint cannot retransmit the request (ARQ) before it has registered successfully with one of the alternate gatekeepers. This comment is also valid for URJ, BRJ, LRJ, DRJ, INAK 3. In the case of a DRJ message (endpoint is being dropped, sends DRQ, gets back DRJ with altGKInfo), should the endpoint register with one of the alternate gatekeepers to send a DRQ message right away? 4. In the case of a gateway endpoint with multiple ports, how should these messages be handled when calls are active? Thank you in advance for any comments, regards Jean-François -------------------------------------------------------- Jean-François Mulé Standards & Architecture Group Clarent Corporation Tel: +1 650 481-2835 700 Chesapeake Drive Fax: +1 650 817-3950 Redwood City, CA 94063 jfmule(a)clarent.com http://www.clarent.com

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ImCr `y ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0B9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140556050812 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2BN>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0B9@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:10 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:44:45 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:05 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140544.WAA10799(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:44:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr Ð ×ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B7@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140540210312 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2A7>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B7@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:28:07 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:21 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140528.WAA10335(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:28:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091CF@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140523400546 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2AM>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091CF@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:11:15 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:40 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140511.WAA09890(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:11:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: 6 ImCr xÚ(ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while!<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FF9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140506490984 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH09>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FF9@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:49 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <v0401010fb3b1ca441136(a)giti.or.jp> From: Sakae OKUBO <okubo(a)GITI.OR.JP> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Dear All, As you see in your mailbox, error messages are circulating between the reflector and System Administrator<postmaster(a)Ganymede.com>. I am afraid this message would cause another circulation and accumulation, but please stop posting your message until the problem is removed. Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp ***********************************************************

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