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Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide
by Jean-Francois Mule 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

Context: The implementer's guide (revision D), section 6.2.19 states: "If this information is supplied, an endpoint should retransmit the request to one of the alternate gatekeepers listed". It is also specified that this correction should be applied to 7.8.3 (GRJ), 7.9.3 (RRJ), 7.10.3 (URJ), 7.11.3 (ARJ), 7.12.3(BRJ), 7.13.3(LRJ), 7.14.3 (DRJ), and 7.15.3 (IACK). Editorial comments: 0. IACK does not include altGKInfo ==> 7.15.3 (IACK) should be replaced by 7.15.4 (INAK) which contains altGKInfo Request for comments: 1. The correction is understandable for GRJ, RRJ 2. In the case of altGKInfo received in ARJ for example, some additional clarification would be welcome. Indeed, the endpoint cannot retransmit the request (ARQ) before it has registered successfully with one of the alternate gatekeepers. This comment is also valid for URJ, BRJ, LRJ, DRJ, INAK 3. In the case of a DRJ message (endpoint is being dropped, sends DRQ, gets back DRJ with altGKInfo), should the endpoint register with one of the alternate gatekeepers to send a DRQ message right away? 4. In the case of a gateway endpoint with multiple ports, how should these messages be handled when calls are active? Thank you in advance for any comments, regards Jean-François -------------------------------------------------------- Jean-François Mulé Standards & Architecture Group Clarent Corporation Tel: +1 650 481-2835 700 Chesapeake Drive Fax: +1 650 817-3950 Redwood City, CA 94063 jfmule(a)clarent.com http://www.clarent.com

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Question on RAS ICV (Integrity Check Value) (fwd)
by Aseem Agarwal 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

Since i received no responses for my question regarding RAS ICV handling, can i assume that most (if not all) H.323 compliant implementations do not use RAS ICVs ? It is an optional IE in all RAS messages. If anyone knows of implementations using this functionality, please reply back. Any leads/pointers would be appreciated. thanks aseem(a)trillium.com Forwarded message: > From aseem(a)trillium.com Tue Jul 13 09:48 PDT 1999 > From: aseem(a)trillium.com (Aseem Agarwal) > Message-Id: <199907131659.JAA07327(a)arathorn.trillium.com.trillium.com> > Subject: Question on RAS ICV (Integrity Check Value) > To: h323implementors(a)imtc.org, ITU-SG16(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:59:30 -0700 (PDT) > Cc: aseem(a)trillium.com (Aseem Agarwal) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Length: 477 > > Hi > Sometime back there was a thread of discussion on the RAS ICV. I > tried to download the previous message digests. But i did not find > any decisive mails for future H.323 versions. Can u please tell me > how do the present implementations handle ICV generation and ICV > verification (at the receiving side) ? I can only think of > re-encoding/ decoding the message, which i think shall be a big > processing overhead. > > Thanks in anticipation, > aseem(a)trillium.com >

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Re: test - ignore
by Illikkal, Ramesh G 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

-----Original Message----- From: Illikkal, Ramesh G Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 10:11 AM To: 'itu-sg16(a)mailbag.intel.com' Subject: test - ignore

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Temporary Lock on ITU-SG16 List
by Meyer, Greg W 14 Jul '99

14 Jul '99

Due to a loop condition between two automated responding servers, the ITU-SG16 list and a mail system adminstration server, the ITU-SG16 is temporarily locked. Only those who are subscribed to the list can post to it. I'll wait until it looks like it's cleared out of the system to re-enable non-subscribers to post. Sorry to have filled your inboxes. Thanks, Greg Meyer Intel Corporation mailto:greg.w.meyer@intel.com +1.503.264.9506

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APC-1569 > Source : BT and Tech-Know-Ware > Title : Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Implementer's Guide APC-1570 > Source : BT and Tech-Know-Ware > Title : Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp *********************************************************** Documents for Q.12-14/16 Rapporteur meeting in Berlin (2-6 August 1999) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ APC- Source Title ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1555 ITU-T SG8 Recommendation T.38 Indications in Recommendation H.245 (TD1/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1556 ITU-T SG11 Support of IN services for H.323 and other IP Network based terminals (TD4/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1557 ITU-T SG9 Draft New Rec. J.Web "Distribution of Sound and Television Programmes over the Internet "Webcasting"" (TD22/WP2 of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1558 ITU-T SG2 Routing of Multimedia Connections When Interworking with PSTN, ATM, and IP Networks (TD24/GEN of the SG16 Santiago meeting) 1559 SG16 WP2 Proposed Organisation going forward to new Study Period 1560 Editor (E Martinez) Annex-H (User and Service Mobility in H.323) Proposed Architecture 1561 Editor (G Hellstrom) H.323 Annex G Text Conversation and Text SET 1562 L M Ericsson H.gcp Modification proposals for Text Conversation 1563 L M Ericsson First draft of a H.246 Annex for text conversation and text telephony 1564 L M Ericsson H.224 Modified for text conversation 1565 (P Jones) T.35 (1999) country codes 1566 Editor H.243 Draft revised ITU-T Recommendation H.243 (white doc.) 1567 L M Ericsson Generic Service ControlTransport 1568 Lucent and H.245 Generic Capabilities Definition and AT&T H.225 Packetization Specification for the North American Cellular/PCS TDMA Vocoders (ACELP and US1) 1569 BT and Tech- Editorial Clarifications to H.323 and the Know-Ware Implementer's Guide 1570 BT and Tech- Clarifications on Third-Party Pause Know-Ware ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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ImCr ;h ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0BF@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140627200812 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CQ>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:27:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0BF@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:27:24 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:15:45 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:27:20 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140615.XAA11801(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:15:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr Ð ¯+ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2BD@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140611220031 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CG>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2BD@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:00:32 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:22 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140600.XAA11257(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:00:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr `y ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0B9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140556050812 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2BN>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9012FD0B9@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:10 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:44:45 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:56:05 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140544.WAA10799(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:44:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr Ð ×ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B7@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140540210312 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2A7>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E90130A2B7@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:28:07 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:40:21 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140528.WAA10335(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:28:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091CF@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140523400546 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2AM>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091CF@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:11:15 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:23:40 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140511.WAA09890(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:11:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: 6 ImCr xÚ(ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while!<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901312FF9@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140506490984 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH09>; 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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:06:49 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <v0401010fb3b1ca441136(a)giti.or.jp> From: Sakae OKUBO <okubo(a)GITI.OR.JP> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: URGENT - stop using this reflector for a while! Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:01:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Dear All, As you see in your mailbox, error messages are circulating between the reflector and System Administrator<postmaster(a)Ganymede.com>. I am afraid this message would cause another circulation and accumulation, but please stop posting your message until the problem is removed. Best regards, Sakae OKUBO (Mr.) *********************************************************** Waseda Research Center Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO) 5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg. 1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo 169-0051 Japan Tel: +81 3 5286 3830 Fax: +81 3 5287 7287 e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp ***********************************************************

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ImCr @€ÃRÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AFE@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140619370015 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CK>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:19:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AFE@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:19:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:07:59 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:19:37 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140607.XAA11547(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:07:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: 8 ImCr `¿O ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313005@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140603340031 M <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2B5>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313005@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:51:12 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:03:34 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <001101becdbc$e4eb1570$d05467d8(a)pacbell.net> From: Jean-Francois Mule <jfmule(a)CLARENT.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Use of Alternate Gatekeepers & Implementers Guide Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:51:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Context: The implementer's guide (revision D), section 6.2.19 states: "If this information is supplied, an endpoint should retransmit the request to one of the alternate gatekeepers listed". It is also specified that this correction should be applied to 7.8.3 (GRJ), 7.9.3 (RRJ), 7.10.3 (URJ), 7.11.3 (ARJ), 7.12.3(BRJ), 7.13.3(LRJ), 7.14.3 (DRJ), and 7.15.3 (IACK). Editorial comments: 0. IACK does not include altGKInfo ==> 7.15.3 (IACK) should be replaced by 7.15.4 (INAK) which contains altGKInfo Request for comments: 1. The correction is understandable for GRJ, RRJ 2. In the case of altGKInfo received in ARJ for example, some additional clarification would be welcome. Indeed, the endpoint cannot retransmit the request (ARQ) before it has registered successfully with one of the alternate gatekeepers. This comment is also valid for URJ, BRJ, LRJ, DRJ, INAK 3. In the case of a DRJ message (endpoint is being dropped, sends DRQ, gets back DRJ with altGKInfo), should the endpoint register with one of the alternate gatekeepers to send a DRQ message right away? 4. In the case of a gateway endpoint with multiple ports, how should these messages be handled when calls are active? Thank you in advance for any comments, regards Jean-François -------------------------------------------------------- Jean-François Mulé Standards & Architecture Group Clarent Corporation Tel: +1 650 481-2835 700 Chesapeake Drive Fax: +1 650 817-3950 Redwood City, CA 94063 jfmule(a)clarent.com http://www.clarent.com

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ImCr Ð£â,ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091DA@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140611220453 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2CH>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E9013091DA@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:57:01 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:11:22 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <199907140557.WAA11141(a)mailbag.cps.intel.com> From: Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator <owner-LISTSERV(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:57:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ImCr ðÅ°ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901313001@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140552360359 M 00C05A6)<ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM> ]GmEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0S2BG>; 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(ÍŸ <>Undeliverable: Re: H.323 call over gateway question<3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AEE@EXCHANGESERVER>c=US;a= ;p=Ganymede Softwar;l=EXCHANGESERVER9907140423490656 M -vsc <ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>.COMEwLsReceived: by EXCHANGESERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <36Y0SH99>; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:23:55 -0400 Message-ID: <3077949C05DBD111AB1000A0C9B427E901306AEE@EXCHANGESERVER> From: System Administrator <postmaster(a)Ganymede.com> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Undeliverable: Re: H.323 call over gateway question Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:23:54 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: Your message To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: H.323 call over gateway question Sent: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:05:17 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Dan(a)GANYMEDESOFTWARE.COM on Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:23:49 -0400 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:Ganymede Software:OLYMPUS:EXCHANGESERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient ----- Message-ID: <003001becdae$193e7600$e1ee558b(a)ddw.hss.hns.com> From: Ravi Kiran Valmikam <vrkiran(a)MAILANDNEWS.COM> To: ITU-SG16(a)MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: H.323 call over gateway question Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:05:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-MS-Embedded-Report: ----- Original Message ----- From: Christian Geng <christian.geng(a)DETEWE.DE> > Dear Sir or Madame, > > We want to setup a call from a H.323 terminal to an endpoint placed in > the PBX. This call should be via gatekeeper. Shoul first a setup been > done to the gatekeeper? No. It should start off with ARQ. >How can the endpoint (callee) on the other side > of the gatekeeper be addressed? Terminal should send an ARQ to the GK with the alias or PBX terminal number. GK will either give the terminal an H.225 Call Signaling Transport Address of the GW or itself(GK) in ACF. Terminal shall simply send a Setup on that address. >When we do first the setup to the > gatekeeper, we will put in the H.225.0 Setup-UUI/destinationAddress the > AliasAddress of the gatekeeper. Is this right? No. You will fill the destination endpoint address(alias or PBX number) and send it to GK. >And were can we put in > the address of the PBX endpoint (callee)? > Thanks If you are talking about Gatekeeper Routed Calling, please refer to section 8, esp 8.2 of H.323. 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