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November 1998
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Dear Q.12-14/16 experts,
We have received an input from the Q.15/16 Seoul meeting requesting our
reply. This has been registered as APC-1467, which is reused according to
the Nortel advice of withdrawal. APC-1467 is now available at /9811_Tor
directory of the ftp site.
Best regards,
Sakae OKUBO (Mr.)
***********************************************************
Waseda Research Center
Telecommunications Advancement Organization of Japan (TAO)
5th Floor, Nishi-Waseda Bldg.
1-21-1 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo
169-0051 Japan
Tel: +81 3 5286 3830
Fax: +81 3 5287 7287
e-mail: okubo(a)giti.or.jp
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Documents for the Torino meeting (17-20 November 1998)
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APC- Source Provisional title
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1426 India Internet traffic on the PSTN
1427 Korea Telecom
Required functions of RTP receiver and packet
forwarding procedure for Dynamic Multicast Network
1428 Accord Video Telecommunication
RTP Maximum Packet size
1429 Intel H.323 version 2 compliant Profile
1430 Editor Draft H.283
1431 PictureTel Changes to draft H.323 related to recommendations
H.282 and H.283
1432 PictureTel H.283 and H.323 Annex E harmonization
1433 PictureTel General comments on Annex E
1434 AT&T Intra-Domain/Inter-Zone Gatekeeper-to-Gatekeeper and
Inter-Domain Border Element-to-Border Element
Communications for Distributive, Centralized, and
Hybrid Architecture
1435 AT&T Viewgraph Presentation of the contribution described
in APC1434
1436 RADVision Master-Slave Determination Procedure in GK routed
call model
1437 Editor Update to Draft Recommendation H.341
1438 ETSI TIPHON Liaison from ETSI TIPHON transmitting the draft Phase
1 and 2 TIPHON architecture (DTS/TIPHON-02002)
1439 ETSI TIPHON Liaison from ETSI TIPHON regarding transport of ISUP
in an H.323 network
1440 Intel New H.245 Messages for Bit-rate Management
1441 (G Kimchi)
1442 (G Kimchi)
1443 (G Kimchi)
1444 (G Kimchi)
1445 Siemens and Videoserver
Conference out of consultation
1446 Siemens Tunnel Transport of SCN Signaling Protocols
1447 Siemens Comments on H.225 Annex G working draft
1448 Intel Coding and usage details for Annex G
1449 Q14 Rapp. New Question of SG15 on PSTN to Internet gateway
1450 MPEG Liaison to Q.12/16
1451 Q12 Rapp. Correction of Amendment 5 to ITU-T Rec. H.222.0|
ISO/IEC 13818-1
1452 Q12 Rapp. Integrated edition of ITU-T Rec. H.222.0|ISO/IEC
13818-1 and ITU-T Rec. H.262|ISO/IEC 13818-2
1453 PictureTel Requirements For Layered Audio Coding
1454 Editor Draft H.450.7
1455 RADVision Comments on GK to GK communication protocol
1456 RADVision Tunneling of H.281/H.224 FECC frames
1457 Toshiba Proposed changes on H.245 codepoints for MPEG-4
visual support
1458 TAO Requirements for the H.32L system
1459 TAO Transmission efficiency, packetization delay and
information rate
1460 NTT DoCoMo Multimedia terminal on IMT-2000 network
1461 Bellcore Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP)
1462 COMSAT Support of non-ITU voice codecs in ITU-T
Recommendations
1463 KPN H.450.Call Completion on Busy Subscriber
1464 Ericsson New code point, for T.140, in H.224
1465 Nortel Connection Model For Device Control
1466 Nortel Requirements For The Device Control Interface
1467 Q15/16 Letter from Q.15 / SG 16 to Q.11 through Q.14 / SG 16
1468 Siemens Report about ETSI TIPHON meeting of October 26-30,
Tel Aviv
1469 Madge Networks
Scalable security for Annex G
1470 BT Requirements for IVR Control in VoIP
1471 VideoServer ISUP and FAS/NFAS Call Signaling for H.323 Gateways
1472 Editor H.225.0 V3 current draft
1473 Editor H.225.0 Annex G working draft
1474 Lucent Technologies
SS7 Information Transport over Intermediate H.323
Network
1475 Lucent Technologies
Comments on Annex G
1476 ITXC, VocalTec, and Lucent Technologies
Interoperability Profile
1477 Q12 Rapp. Plan for H.321 Implementors Guide
1478 ATMF H.323 media transport over ATM
1479 Editor Draft H.323 Annex F Single Use Devices
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Dear Q.11-14 Torino meeting participants,
I have prepared a few MPEG-4 audio demonstrations to show what MPEG-4
audio achieved.
Demo 1: HVXC 2kbps (by playing wave files)
Demo 2: bitrate, bandwidth scalable CELP (by realtime software decoder)
Demo 3: scalable AAC, scalable TwinVQ+AAC, stereo AAC
(by realtime software decoder)
Since the demos are only available by my laptop with a PC speaker or a
headphone, please contact me during coffee breaks.
Best regards,
Hidenobu Harasaki harasaki(a)ccm.CL.nec.co.jp
Manager, Research C&C Media Research Labs., NEC Corporation
Phone: +81 44 856 8083 Fax: +81 44 856 2232
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Dear Mr. Okubo,
I have uploaded contribution APC-1479 into the Incoming directory
of the PictureTel ftp site.
Apologies for the delayed registration and provision of this document.
Best regards,
Joerg
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12 Nov '98
Dear SG16 members,
As usually I have been discussing requirements and uses for H.323 with
different people within BT. What I find is they all need different
additional features. This represents a problem for H.225, which could
easily become as cumbersome as H.245! What is needed is a way to add
feature to H.225 without having to add syntax to the core protocol each
time. This issue has been particularly brought to a head with the
issues relating to handling of SS7.
I have therefore drafted a document that proposes a solution that will
allow features to be added H.225 without having to continuously revise
the core spec. So far I have only considered the Q.931 side of things,
but the RAS side could also benefit from the same treatment.
I have attached this document below for you to look at. The document
gives more justification for why this issue urgently needs looking at,
so I hope you will find the time to look at it. I know that this is too
late as a contribution for this meeting, but I would be interested in
discussing it with any interested parties in Torino so that something
can be put together for the next meeting.
Regards,
Pete
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Pete Cordell
BT Labs
E-Mail: pete.cordell(a)bt-sys.bt.co.uk
Tel: +44 1473 646436
Fax: +44 1473 645499
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I uploaded APC-1465 (Connection Model For Device Control) and APC-1466
(Requirements For Device Control) last night - apologies for their lateness.
I am withdrawing APC-1467 (Requirements For SCN/H.323 Signalling
Interworking) for lack of time to do a good job.
Tom Taylor
E-mail: taylor(a)nortel.com (internally Tom-PT Taylor)
Tel.: +1 613 765 4167 (internally 395-4167)
FAX: +1 613 763 7236 (internally 393-7236)
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I'm passing this one on to the list.
> Hi Tom,
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> I wonder if you could help me find some info. I want to implement some
> security features in H.323 using H.235. My question is this: Do you know
> if there are standard object identifiers already allocated for various
> encryption algorithms? I presume there are, but I have no idea where to
> find them. If there are can you point me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks in advance,
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Attached please find the information for the Q. 11-14 Torino Meeting.
See you next week.
Federico Tosco
CSELT
Via Reiss Romoli 274
10148 TORINO, Italy
Phone: +39 0112285321
Fax: +39 0112285295
E_mail: federico.tosco(a)cselt.it
ITU Meeting
Turin, November 17th- 20th, 1998
GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEETING
CSELT is pleased to welcome you to the Experts' Meeting on Questions
11-14/16.
This document contains logistic information about the meeting's set-up and
some general information about our site and the facilities that we will be
providing throughout the meeting.
I. THE MEETING VENUE
The meeting will take place in 3 places:
* The Auditorium (Level -1, Building A)
* The Manzoni Room (2nd Floor, Building A)
* The MR Room (3rd Floor, Building I)
All Plenary sessions will take place in the Auditorium. Participants dealing
with Questions 12, 13 and 14 will mainly be working in the Auditorium. The
Manzoni room will be a breakout room and participants dealing with Question
11 will meet in the MR room. These details may of course vary according to
the agenda. Details shall be posted outside the meeting rooms.
II. MEETING SUPPORT
When you enter the CSELT premises from the Via G. Reiss Romoli n. 274
entrance, you will find signs to the Auditorium. CSELT staff will be in the
Auditorium foyer area to register you and give you a participant's badge
(from 8:30 AM to 9:30 AM). For security reasons, we would be extremely
grateful if you could kindly keep this badge with you at all times, and
exhibit it to security personnel upon request.
The registration desk will be staffed during the hours mentioned above.
However, assistance is only a phone-call away as we have set up a meeting
helpline that will be active during the entire course of the meeting.
Should you require any kind of information or assistance, whether technical
or logistical, please call 0335462567 and we will be pleased to do our best
to help. The number will be active from 8:30 AM to 6:30 PM.
The telephones you can call from are located in the following areas:
Auditorium: at the reception desk
Manzoni: in the reception area outside the meeting room
MR Room: please refer to the office opposite the meeting room (office number
I4226).
N.B. Please dial "0" before dialling the number.
III. SERVICES
* The cloakroom is located in the Auditorium foyer. Staff will direct
you to it when you register.
* Coffee breaks will take place at the bar in the Auditorium foyer.
* Lunch will take place at 1:15 PM in the CSELT canteen. Each
participant will be issued with lunch tickets for all 4 days upon
registration on Tuesday morning. CSELT staff will be waiting in the
Auditorium foyer at 1:00 PM to show you the way to the canteen. It is
self-service, and serves a wide range of hot and cold food. Once you have
chosen your meal please go to the tills and give the attendant your voucher.
The water fountains are located opposite the tills. You may take a
seat at any of the tables.
The canteen stops serving food at 1:30 PM. It is therefore important
that participants get there by 1:15.
IV. TECHNICAL FACILITIES
* LAN:
A local network will be at your disposal throughout the duration of
the meeting, both in the Manzoni room and the Auditorium. Technical
assistants will be present and detailed instructions will be provided upon
request.
* Printers:
Printing facilities will be available in both the Manzoni room and
the Auditorium. In the MR room, please refer to office number I4226
(opposite the meeting room).
* Copiers
A copier will be at your disposal in the Auditorium foyer. If you
need a large number of copies, please contact the helpline.
* Additional information:
We would like to draw your attention to the Auditorium's seating
set-up. This applies exclusively to those participants who will be using
their laptop there. Although the seats are mobile, we have alternately fixed
seats so that documents, laptops and other items can be left without them
closing. Therefore we kindly advise you to sit in the mobile seats. Another
reason for this is that there is one LAN attachment for every two seats.
VI. GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT CSELT'S VIA REISS ROMOLI SITE
* How to get here
We are located in northern Turin, about a 15-minute drive from Turin's
Caselle Airport.
A taxi from the airport to this site costs around 45.000 Lire. There are no
direct public transport services from the airport. However, there is a bus
service from the airport terminal to the City Centre that terminates in
Corso Inghilterra. The journey takes about 40 minutes (the fare is 6000
Lire).
There are public transport services to this site from both of Turin's main
railway stations (Torino Porta Nuova and Torino Porta Susa). The number 52
bus takes 45-50 minutes from Porta Nuova railway station. The same bus takes
30-40 minutes to reach this site from Porta Susa Railway Station. The bus
stops right outside CSELT. Please note that from 9 AM to 2:30 PM the 52 bus
does not stop on Via Reiss Romoli because it takes a different route. During
these hours we advise you to ask the bus driver to let you know when to get
off (the bus will stop in an adjacent street and to get to our site you will
need to turn left into Via Reiss Romoli). Alternatively you are advised to
take a taxi. The 52 bus runs until 9 PM. A taxi ride from the City Centre
takes approximately 20 minutes and should cost around 25.000 Lire.
Tickets cannot be purchased onboard buses or trams. You can find them at
tobacconists' and newsagents' or vending machines at certain bus/tram stops
at a cost of 1400 Lire.
Please note that you cannot buy them near our Via Reiss Romoli site and we
therefore advise you to purchase them beforehand.
* Opening Hours:
The Meeting Rooms are open from 8:30 AM to 6:30 PM. The Via Reiss Romoli
entrance closes at 6:30 PM. If you need to stay beyond that time please
contact the helpline. After 6:30 PM you will need to use the Via Olivetti
entrance. Please ask staff for directions to this entrance.
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ITU Meeting
Turin, November 17th- 20th, 1998
GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEETING
CSELT is pleased to welcome you to the Experts Meeting on Questions 11-14/16.
This document contains logistic information about the meetings set-up and some general information about our site and the facilities that we will be providing throughout the meeting.
THE MEETING VENUE
The meeting will take place in 3 places:
The Auditorium (Level -1, Building A)
The Manzoni Room (2nd Floor, Building A)
The MR Room (3rd Floor, Building I)
All Plenary sessions will take place in the Auditorium. Participants dealing with Questions 12, 13 and 14 will mainly be working in the Auditorium. The Manzoni room will be a breakout room and participants dealing with Question 11 will meet in the MR room. These details may of course vary according to the agenda. Details shall be posted outside the meeting rooms.
II. MEETING SUPPORT
When you enter the CSELT premises from the Via G. Reiss Romoli n. 274 entrance, you will find signs to the Auditorium. CSELT staff will be in the Auditorium foyer area to register you and give you a participants badge (from 8:30 AM to 9:30 AM). For security reasons, we would be extremely grateful if you could kindly keep this badge with you at all times, and exhibit it to security personnel upon request.
The registration desk will be staffed during the hours mentioned above. However, assistance is only a phone-call away as we have set up a meeting helpline that will be active during the entire course of the meeting.
Should you require any kind of information or assistance, whether technical or logistical, please call 0335462567 and we will be pleased to do our best to help. The number will be active from 8:30 AM to 6:30 PM.
The telephones you can call from are located in the following areas:
Auditorium: at the reception desk
Manzoni: in the reception area outside the meeting room
MR Room: please refer to the office opposite the meeting room (office number I4226).
N.B. Please dial 0 before dialling the number.
SERVICES
The cloakroom is located in the Auditorium foyer. Staff will direct you to it when you register.
Coffee breaks will take place at the bar in the Auditorium foyer.
Lunch will take place at 1:15 PM in the CSELT canteen. Each participant will be issued with lunch tickets for all 4 days upon registration on Tuesday morning. CSELT staff will be waiting in the Auditorium foyer at 1:00 PM to show you the way to the canteen. It is self-service, and serves a wide range of hot and cold food. Once you have chosen your meal please go to the tills and give the attendant your voucher.
The water fountains are located opposite the tills. You may take a seat at any of the tables.
The canteen stops serving food at 1:30 PM. It is therefore important that participants get there by 1:15.
TECHNICAL FACILITIES
LAN:
A local network will be at your disposal throughout the duration of the meeting, both in the Manzoni room and the Auditorium. Technical assistants will be present and detailed instructions will be provided upon request.
Printers:
Printing facilities will be available in both the Manzoni room and the Auditorium. In the MR room, please refer to office number I4226 (opposite the meeting room).
Copiers
A copier will be at your disposal in the Auditorium foyer. If you need a large number of copies, please contact the helpline.
Additional information:
We would like to draw your attention to the Auditoriums seating set-up. This applies exclusively to those participants who will be using their laptop there. Although the seats are mobile, we have alternately fixed seats so that documents, laptops and other items can be left without them closing. Therefore we kindly advise you to sit in the mobile seats. Another reason for this is that there is one LAN attachment for every two seats.
VI. GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT CSELTS VIA REISS ROMOLI SITE
How to get here
We are located in northern Turin, about a 15-minute drive from Turins Caselle Airport.
A taxi from the airport to this site costs around 45.000 Lire. There are no direct public transport services from the airport. However, there is a bus service from the airport terminal to the City Centre that terminates in Corso Inghilterra. The journey takes about 40 minutes (the fare is 6000 Lire).
There are public transport services to this site from both of Turins main railway stations (Torino Porta Nuova and Torino Porta Susa). The number 52 bus takes 45-50 minutes from Porta Nuova railway station. The same bus takes 30-40 minutes to reach this site from Porta Susa Railway Station. The bus stops right outside CSELT. Please note that from 9 AM to 2:30 PM the 52 bus does not stop on Via Reiss Romoli because it takes a different route. During these hours we advise you to ask the bus driver to let you know when to get off (the bus will stop in an adjacent street and to get to our site you will need to turn left into Via Reiss Romoli). Alternatively you are advised to take a taxi. The 52 bus runs until 9 PM. A taxi ride from the City Centre takes approximately 20 minutes and should cost around 25.000 Lire.
Tickets cannot be purchased onboard buses or trams. You can find them at tobacconists and newsagents or vending machines at certain bus/tram stops at a cost of 1400 Lire.
Please note that you cannot buy them near our Via Reiss Romoli site and we therefore advise you to purchase them beforehand.
Opening Hours:
The Meeting Rooms are open from 8:30 AM to 6:30 PM. The Via Reiss Romoli entrance closes at 6:30 PM. If you need to stay beyond that time please contact the helpline. After 6:30 PM you will need to use the Via Olivetti entrance. Please ask staff for directions to this entrance.
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Dear All,
Please could some one clarify the use of the H.245 sessionID in
communicationModeCommand and OLC.
For example, H.245 says: "The sessionID is a unique RTP or T.120 Session
Identifier in the conference. It is used by the transmitter to refer to
the session to which the logical channel applies. <BOLD>Only the master
can create the session identification.</BOLD> "
Q: does this mean that the master defines the sessionID in a
communications mode command message, or in the OLC procedure. e.g. is
it:
My endpoint(slave) Remote endpoint(master)
---------> OLC (no SessID) ------------->
<--------- OLC ACK (SessID=1) -----------
OR:
My endpoint(slave) Remote endpoint(master)
<-----ComModeComm (SessID 1 = xyz)<------
----------> OLC (SessID 1) ------------->
<--------OLC ACK (no SessID) <-----------
If it is the second case, what happens if the remote endpoint becomes
the master, but is not an MC. Do you do:
My endpoint(slave) Remote endpoint(master)
---------> OLC (no SessID) ------------->
<--------- OLC ACK (SessID=1) -----------
OR:
My endpoint(slave) Remote endpoint(master)
----------> OLC (SessID 1) ------------->
<--------OLC ACK (no SessID) <-----------
If you want to open a second audio session with an associated second
video session in a point-to-point non-MC case, do you do:
My endpoint(slave) Remote endpoint(master)
----------> OLC (SessID=0) ------------->
<--------OLC ACK (SessID=4) <------------
----> OLC (SessID=0, AssocSessID=4) ---->
<--------OLC ACK (SessID=5) <------------
OR is there a way to open the two channels at the same time?
Thanks for any pointers,
Pete
P.S. I'm sure Mark Reid wrote down some examples on these sorts of
things, but I can't seem to find them.
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Pete Cordell
BT Labs
E-Mail: pete.cordell(a)bt-sys.bt.co.uk
Tel: +44 1473 646436
Fax: +44 1473 645499
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Dear Mr. Okubo,
APC-1445 "Conference out of Consultation Supplementary Service for H.323"
has been uploaded to the pictel Incoming directory.
Karl Klaghofer
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Karl Klaghofer, Siemens AG, Dpmt. ICN IB NL IP
Hofmannstr. 51, D-81359 Munich, Germany
Tel.: +49 89 722 31488, Fax.: +49 89 722 37629
e-mail: karl.klaghofer(a)vs.siemens.de
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