Terry, B.2.2.2 refers to capabilityDescriptors, which are numbered according to preference, whereas C.4.1.3 refers to simultaneousCapabilities, which are arranged in order of preference. There is no conflict. Paul Long ipDialog, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Lyons, Terry [mailto:TLyons@sonusnet.com] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:41 AM To: ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM Cc: 'imtch323implementors@mail.imtc.org'; Lyons, Terry Subject: [imtch323implementors] Conflict resolution for symmetrical OLCs - which is the preferred mode? Please consider these two extracts from RECOMMENDATION H.245 - VERSION 7 B.2.2.2 Capability Descriptors If a terminal has a preference for the mode it would like to transmit or receive, and wishes to express this when transmitting its capabilities, it may do so by giving CapabilityDescriptors that relate to its preferred mode or modes small values of capabilityDescriptorNumber. C.4.1.3 Conflict resolution When the master and the slave have indicated choices of receive capabilities for a particular media type, the slave should attempt to open a logical channel for the master's most preferred capability for which it has capability, as given by the order the master has expressed its capabilities; and the master should attempt to open a logical channel for its most preferred capability for which the slave has capability, as given by the order it has expressed its capabilities. --------------------------------------- The new wording "the order the master has expressed its capabilities" is insufficiently defined to act on and seems to conflict with the old definition of prefered mode. As explained in section B.2.1, a terminal's total capabilities may be expressed over an extended period of time, not in a single message (Terminals may dynamically add capabilities during a communication session by issuing additional CapabilityDescriptor structures, or remove capabilities by sending revised CapabilityDescriptor structures). And the capability table entries by themselves are incomplete without accompanying descriptors (The terminal's total capabilities are described by a set of CapabilityDescriptor structures). Both capabililty table entries and capability descriptors are already numbered. Is the Order of Expression an additional attribute that needs to be inferred when processing the pieces of a received Terminal Capability Set? It seems that some clarification is needed. Preferrably, C.4.1.3 should refer back to B.2.2.2 for an operational definition. - TLyons@sonusnet.com +1 732 625-3003 ext 212 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv@mailbag.intel.com