Re: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Hi, I want to pint out that in order to use H.264 in H.323 and H.320 we need a final version of H.264 and an RFC describing the RTPformat. So having H.264 in May will not make it usable in a standrad mode unless we can progress on all fronts. Roni Even
-----Original Message----- From: Gary Sullivan To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Sent: 18/12/2002 03:17 Subject: Re: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Istvan et al,
The current plan is for JVT to meet in Pattaya with MPEG. WP3 will then either be in Pattaya on or about the 15th of March or soon thereafter elsewhere.
The previous plan was drafted under the expectation that we would need to deliver FDIS text in mid-February as an interim editing output on the MPEG side. We now plan to allow more time for editing and final technical double-check, so FDIS text is not needed that soon. Although technical freeze was declared last week, FDIS is not going to happen until March now so that we can have a more mature document. This lessens the schedule pressure on the MPEG side somewhat. We can benefit from that extra time by doing the same thing on the ITU side and aligning text delivery and final technical double-check in both organizations. This will still enable ITU-T decision no later than May, which is what it probably would have been anyway regardless of whether we did consent somwhat earlier.
Best Regards,
-Gary
-----Original Message----- From: Sebestyen Istvan ICN M SR 3 [mailto:istvan.sebestyen@SIEMENS.COM] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:46 AM To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Subject: AW: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
So, how then are the plans concretely?
On March 11-15, 2003 there is an MPEG Meeting in Pattaya. So, H.264 goes to FDIS. But:
1) When and where is the JVT Meeting? 2) When and where is the WP3 Meeting?
Kind regards, Istvan
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Gary Sullivan [mailto:garysull@microsoft.com] Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 12:05 An: Sebestyen Istvan ICN M SR 3; ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Betreff: RE: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Yes, we are planning for WP3 consent for H.264/AVC sometime between March 15 and March 30. This will let us consent a better draft and coordinate better with the ISO/IEC approval process.
Best Regards,
-Gary S. _____
From: Sebestyen Istvan ICN M SR 3 [mailto:istvan.sebestyen@SIEMENS.COM] Sent: Mon 12/16/2002 2:32 AM To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Subject: AW: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Dear Mr. Okubo,
Thanks. For mid February also a one day WP3 meeting in Geneva was planned to make "consent" for H.264. Has that also gone away?
Regards, Istvan Sebestyen
-----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: OKUBO Sakae [ mailto:okubo@MXZ.MESH.NE.JP mailto:okubo@MXZ.MESH.NE.JP ] Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 05:12 An: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Betreff: Fwd: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Dear Q.D,F,G,1-5/16 experts,
The conclusion last week in Awajishima, Japan, was that Q.6/WP3 would not meet as a whole next February. So we will meet in San Jose during 11-14 February 2003 according to 2/ below. Mr. Jones will issue the meeting notice very soon.
At 16:23 +0900 02/12/07, OKUBO Sakae wrote:
[...] Rapporteurs have been seeking the best place to hold this meeting. This is to report the progress.
1/ As default, we will meet in Geneva to handle video related topics with Q.6 experts who will meet there for WP3 consent of H.264.
2/ In case Q.6 and WP3 should not meet at that time depending on the interim achievements, Q.D,F,G,1-5/16 will meet in the US, San Jose or Raleigh, thanks to the offer of Cisco.
3/ Q.6 is now working in Japan and will have a definite answer next Friday if they meet in Geneva during the mentioned week next February. So our final decision will be made at that time. Please stay tuned on this mailinglist.
4/ For this Rapporteur meeting, Paul Jones acts as meeting organizer, and myself as document manager.
-- Best regards,
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Roni,
It is possible to specify the use of H.264 without an RFC. Even today, there is not RFC for G.723.1... though it has been in the works for several years. All we would need is an agreed-upon payload format and to ask Henning to assign a PT value or decide on the use of a dynamic PT value. We can insert the payload format into H.225.0 if we want and use that until the RFC is available.
Paul
----- Original Message ----- From: "Even, Roni" roni.even@POLYCOM.CO.IL To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: Re: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Hi, I want to pint out that in order to use H.264 in H.323 and H.320 we need a final version of H.264 and an RFC describing the RTPformat. So having
H.264
in May will not make it usable in a standrad mode unless we can progress
on
all fronts. Roni Even
-----Original Message----- From: Gary Sullivan To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Sent: 18/12/2002 03:17 Subject: Re: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Istvan et al,
The current plan is for JVT to meet in Pattaya with MPEG. WP3 will then either be in Pattaya on or about the 15th of March or soon thereafter elsewhere.
The previous plan was drafted under the expectation that we would need to deliver FDIS text in mid-February as an interim editing output on the MPEG side. We now plan to allow more time for editing and final technical double-check, so FDIS text is not needed that soon. Although technical freeze was declared last week, FDIS is not going to happen until March now so that we can have a more mature document. This lessens the schedule pressure on the MPEG side somewhat. We can benefit from that extra time by doing the same thing on the ITU side and aligning text delivery and final technical double-check in both organizations. This will still enable ITU-T decision no later than May, which is what it probably would have been anyway regardless of whether we did consent somwhat earlier.
Best Regards,
-Gary
-----Original Message----- From: Sebestyen Istvan ICN M SR 3 [mailto:istvan.sebestyen@SIEMENS.COM] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:46 AM To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Subject: AW: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
So, how then are the plans concretely?
On March 11-15, 2003 there is an MPEG Meeting in Pattaya. So, H.264 goes to FDIS. But:
- When and where is the JVT Meeting?
- When and where is the WP3 Meeting?
Kind regards, Istvan
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Gary Sullivan [mailto:garysull@microsoft.com] Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 12:05 An: Sebestyen Istvan ICN M SR 3; ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Betreff: RE: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Yes, we are planning for WP3 consent for H.264/AVC sometime between March 15 and March 30. This will let us consent a better draft and coordinate better with the ISO/IEC approval process.
Best Regards,
-Gary S. _____
From: Sebestyen Istvan ICN M SR 3 [mailto:istvan.sebestyen@SIEMENS.COM] Sent: Mon 12/16/2002 2:32 AM To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Subject: AW: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Dear Mr. Okubo,
Thanks. For mid February also a one day WP3 meeting in Geneva was planned to make "consent" for H.264. Has that also gone away?
Regards, Istvan Sebestyen
-----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: OKUBO Sakae [ mailto:okubo@MXZ.MESH.NE.JP mailto:okubo@MXZ.MESH.NE.JP ] Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 05:12 An: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Betreff: Fwd: Rapporteur meeting in February 2003
Dear Q.D,F,G,1-5/16 experts,
The conclusion last week in Awajishima, Japan, was that Q.6/WP3 would not meet as a whole next February. So we will meet in San Jose during 11-14 February 2003 according to 2/ below. Mr. Jones will issue the meeting notice very soon.
At 16:23 +0900 02/12/07, OKUBO Sakae wrote:
[...] Rapporteurs have been seeking the best place to hold this meeting. This is to report the progress.
1/ As default, we will meet in Geneva to handle video related topics with Q.6 experts who will meet there for WP3 consent of H.264.
2/ In case Q.6 and WP3 should not meet at that time depending on the interim achievements, Q.D,F,G,1-5/16 will meet in the US, San Jose or Raleigh, thanks to the offer of Cisco.
3/ Q.6 is now working in Japan and will have a definite answer next Friday if they meet in Geneva during the mentioned week next February. So our final decision will be made at that time. Please stay tuned on this mailinglist.
4/ For this Rapporteur meeting, Paul Jones acts as meeting organizer, and myself as document manager.
-- Best regards,
OKUBO Sakae e-mail: okubo@giti.waseda.ac.jp
YRP Office Global Information and Telecommunication Institute (GITI) Waseda University YRP Ichibankan 312 Tel: +81 468 47 5406 3-4 Hikarinooka, Yokosuka-shi, Kanagawa-ken Fax: +81 468 47 5413 239-0847 Japan
GITI Headquarter 29-7 Waseda University Bldg. Tel: +81 3 5286 3831 1-3-10 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo Fax: +81 3 5286 3832 169-0051 Japan
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