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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle19><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Karl,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I think
that Francois’s enhanced text will also help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=navy><span style='color:navy'>-------------------------------------------------------</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cló Gaelach \(Twomey\)";color:#339966'>Robert
Callaghan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>--------------------------------------------------------</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Klaghofer Karl ICN EN HC SE
81 <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:06
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> AW: Private telephone
number in H.323v4</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Francois, Paul, Bob and
others,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Please refer to section
6.1.2 of the most recent H.323 Implementers Guide (TD-031 PLEN) of the
Brazil meeting. This IG section clarified previous inconsistencies
in H.323 sections 7.8.2.1, 7.8.3.1 and 7.8.4.1 compared to H.225.0. I.e.
the mentioned three H.323 sections have been updated for clarification on
PNP number usage.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Regards,</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Karl Klaghofer</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></b> Francois Audet
[mailto:audet@NORTELNETWORKS.COM]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2001
01:27<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.INTEL.COM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Private telephone number
in H.323v4</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Hi,</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I just realize a contradiction in H.323v4
and H.225.0v4 concerning the encoding of "private telephone numbers"
(i.e., the type we all use at work):</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=black face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'>·<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>H.225.0v4 says that
"Private telephone numbers" shall be encoded in the UUIE as private
numbers, and NOT in the Q.931 information elements (Calling party IE, etc.).
Let's call this the "Bob method". See Table 18/H.225.0 Note 1.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 1.0in'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=black face=Symbol><span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'>·<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        
</span></font></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>H.323v4 says that the
Q.931 information element is used for "telephone numbers", and that
the UUIE is used for things that are not telephone numbers. Let's call this the
"Glenn method". See H.323v4/7.8.2.1 and 7.8.2.2.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>There is no conflict with both method for
"public" telephone number, but there is a conflict for
"private" telephone numbers.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Which method is right, Bob's or Glenn's?</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>----</span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>François AUDET, Nortel Networks</span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a href="mailto:audet@nortelnetworks.com">mailto:audet@nortelnetworks.com</a>,
tel:+1 408 495 3756</span></font><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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