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<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bob!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hopefully, Paul will formulate the minimal text for
H.323v4.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>After
it is formulated, I will tell, if I can agree to it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As for
today, I do not agree to it, because it will limit the H.323 future in a
non-backward compatible manner.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
the November meeting, I will formulate the draft for the "Annex
O".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hopefully, after the H.323v4 decision, we will find time
to go over the text and discuss the proposed added features during the meeting,
rather then repeating ourselves on the mailing list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=704381221-11092000><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Orit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mailing list for parties
associated with ITU-T Study Group 16 [mailto:ITU-SG16@MAILBAG.INTEL.COM]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Callaghan, Robert<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 11, 2000
5:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> ITU-SG16@MAILBAG.INTEL.COM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Revised H.323 URL document<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Orit,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">You
still do not hear what I am saying.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">So
I repeat, in order to have something for
November;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
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<LI class=MsoNormal
style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list .5in"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">The
H.323 URL is used as an H.323 alias.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>The means that it has all of the properties of an H.323 alias, and
nothing beyond these properties.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>To expand this, this alias is used in ARQs LRQs, SETUP, etc. messages
exactly the same as any other alias.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It is not used for any purpose beyond that for which all other
aliases are used in H.323.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal
style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list .5in"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">There
are no new functions, features, or capabilities added to H.323v4 based on
the addition of the H.323 URL as a new alias
type.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<LI class=MsoNormal
style="COLOR: black; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list .5in"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Any
other uses for the H.323 URL are for future
study.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Can
we agree to these statements for the H.323 URL in
H.323v4?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">If
we agree on this, can the URL format be formulated to support these
statements?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle21><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">If
the URL can be formulated, can it be submitted and approved by IETF before
November?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Bob<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Orit Levin
[mailto:orit@radvision.com]<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 11, 2000 3:01
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Callaghan,
Robert<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.intel.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Revised H.323 URL
document</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Bob!</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Below is
my take on the current situation. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">The three of us
have the following different views on the possible use of the H.323
URL.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">If I try to map
them into the H.323 "classic" picture of EP1---GK1-------GK2---EP2 . The GKs
are optional. If exist, they may contain BE as well.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">I understand
the following:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN lang=FR
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: FR">Bob:: indirect:
EP1---GK1; direct: EP1 --------Zone2</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN lang=FR
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext; mso-ansi-language: FR"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN lang=FR
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: FR">Paul:: indirect:
Zone1-------GK2; direct: Zone1------EP2</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN lang=FR
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext; mso-ansi-language: FR"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Orit::
Zone1-------Zone2 (with H.225.0 Q.931, LRQ or Annex G) possible between them
for a specific call.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">We "agree" that
all of the scenarios should be allowed. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">"It seems like"
we disagree about the priority/emergency of each of the
applications above.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Saying that,
I don't like very much to define a solution based on the
"perceived priority" of the applications.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">My proposed
approach is, <U>above all</U>, guided by the fact, that <U>the DESTINATION is
the one to design its URL scheme, implement and, eventually, publish its
URL(s).</U></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">The URL
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">- has a key (I.e.
the DNS domain) for IP resolution only</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">- says what is the
first H.323 protocol to contact this IP address, all the scenarios above are
addressed.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">If the DNS
portion (I.e. "host") is not present, it automatically means, that the local
(pre-configured or RAS discovered) gatekeeper will resolve the "user" name
(using RAS, Annex G, another DNS lookup, other means). It is an exception, but
it is still consistent with the approach above (The local zone is responsible
for the URL scheme, it published.)</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">The bottom
line: I agree with the last proposal for H.323v4:</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">No parameters
at all. The default: H.225.0/Q.931/Setup with its default TCP port.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Paul?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Best
Regards,</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Orit
Levin<BR>RADVision Inc.<BR>575 Corporate Drive Suite 420<BR>Mahwah, NJ
07430<BR>Tel: 1 201 529 4300 (230)<BR>Fax: 1 201 529 3516<BR><A
href="http://www.radvision.com">www.radvision.com</A><BR><A
href="mailto:orit@radvision.com">orit@radvision.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From: </SPAN></B>Callaghan, Robert <<A
href="mailto:Robert.Callaghan@icn.siemens.com">Robert.Callaghan@icn.siemens.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: </SPAN></B>'Orit Levin' <<A
href="mailto:orit@radvision.com">orit@radvision.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc: </SPAN></B><A
href="mailto:ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.intel.com">ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.intel.com</A>
<<A
href="mailto:ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.intel.com">ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.intel.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Date: </SPAN></B>Monday, September 11, 2000 1:53
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN></B>RE: Revised H.323
URL document</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle20><FONT face=Arial color=#003300 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Orit,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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class=EmailStyle20><FONT face=Arial color=#003300 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle20><FONT face=Arial color=#003300 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Let us
try to focus on a few points first:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>(These are snippets from the
thread.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
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class=EmailStyle20><FONT face=Arial color=#003300 size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OL: Are you
interested in efficiently running H.323 over the
Internet?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">RC: Yes!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For clarification, this is the H.323
as defined in H.323v4 and H.225.0v4.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>For the November decision, there should not be any extensions, implicit
or explicit.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">OL:
The picture, in my mind, is different from yours and fits the "traditional"
H.323. For every H.323 call, logically there are (at least) two GKs: source
and destination. (Physically, both of them are optional, based on the "mode"
policy inside the corresponding H.323
zones.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">RC:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I agree with your model of two
endpoint each with an optional GKs based on zone policies.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The source and destination policies
are independent from each other.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I don't know how this is different, as you
state.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">OL:
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By
specifying in H323-URL the "mode" of operation between the source EP and a GK,
you propose to use the URL for "publishing" the relations between the EP and
"ITS" GK PER DESTINATION! It is, indeed, very different from the H.323 today.
Moreover, you implicitly introduce a concept of a "source" GK, being
re-defined each time BY THE DESTINATION. (This case may be considered as an
additional application for the H.323 URL)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">RC: I make so such
assumption.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In the "Direct"
model, I assume that the given address is directly callable.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The routing model is not specified nor
assumed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If the term "Direct" is
a problem in that the term overlaps with the routing model then the use of
"Callable" would be fine.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The use
of the DNS service to convert the DNS domain to an IP address is assumed.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is also the only use of the DNS
server.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>No DNS records beyond the
"A" record will be used.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If the
initial use of the H.323 URL could be limited to this
service.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">RC:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The use of the "Indirect" or "non
callable" form has bothered me in that its use is not clearly defined.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>My view is that this was a means to
access an H.323 repository to obtain the true address.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Apparently there are other views.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Therefore I suggest that a solution
would be to drop this form for now.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">OL:
The natural use of URLs is between the zones/domain. For H.323, it is an
OPTION, what kind of address resolution to propose and use. <U>The beauty of
the URL approach is that the DESTINATION provides an option to be reached
using the DNS lookup</U>, if it chooses so and populates properly the
DNS.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><SPAN
class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">RC:
The may be beautify for some; but it is definitely new.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know of nothing in H.323v4 that
describes the procedures and rules for this type of address resolution.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This can be discussed as part of Annex
O, after the decision on H.323v4.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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class=EmailStyle19><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OL: We don't have to
agree on the mailing list. We can spend more then one meeting in order to
reach "the consensus". In that case, I would support the inclusion
of the minimal H323-URL only (without any parameters and without the PORT
number) towards the H.323v4.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN-LEFT: 39.75pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; mso-border-left-alt: solid black 1.5pt; mso-padding-alt: 0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">RC: I agree that it
is not possible to agree to a complex solution on the mailing list.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, I hope that we can agree to a
simple URL without any parameters or port (ouch! </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Wingdings color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings"><SPAN
style="mso-char-type: symbol; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">J</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">) where this URL is
the actual address to be used in a SETUP message.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This should not change anything in
H.323 including the use of the GK.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I hope that this
helps.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" color=#003300 size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: #003300; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Siemens
Enterprise Networks</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=1><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: #003300; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Tel:
+1.561.923.1756<SPAN
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</SPAN>Fax: +1.561.923.1403</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=1><SPAN
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</SPAN>Robert.Callaghan@ICN.Siemens.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black
size=1><SPAN
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