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paulej at PACKETIZER.COM
Wed May 28 05:48:34 EDT 2003
At the TR.30.1 meeting in Arlington, VA we discussed the conversion of
5-bit Baudot to T.140/ISO 10646. Basically, we came to the same conclusion
as Gunnar describes below. However, the simple padding of 0's does not work
for characters such as a carriage return, does it? Of course, there are
several characters in the T.140 ISO 10646-1 Basic/Extended Latin subset and
other useful T.140 characters such as a missing character that do not have
Baudot equivalents, and the consensus is to use an apostrophe for
missing/untranslatable characters in Baudot, right? So there would be more
than specifying a simple scheme that leverages the V.18 Annex A will not
I am not sure if I am right here -- Fred Lucas was probably going to put
together a Baudot <-> T.140 Unicode conversion table. Fred?
At 11:15 AM 5/23/2003 -0400, Paul E. Jones wrote:
>I was looking for a defined specification. I think we need one to ensure
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:gunnar.hellstrom at omnitor.se>Gunnar Hellström
>To: <mailto:paulej at packetizer.com>Paul E. Jones
>Cc: <mailto:fred.lucas at worldnet.att.net>Fred Lucas ;
><mailto:asaks at waitrose.com>Andrea Saks ;
><mailto:chuk at dvttest.nb.rockwell.com>Keith Chu ;
><mailto:hwildfeu at cisco.com>Herb Wildfeuer ;
><mailto:rkumar at cisco.com>Rajesh Kumar
>Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 11:10 AM
>Subject: SV: T.140 -> 5-bit Baudot
>I am not aware of any specific information about the 5-bit to Unicode
>But it is straightforward, if you take the conversion tables from V.18
>Annex A, that goes between 5-bit and 7-bit T.50, and add your knowledge
>that for all these 7-bit characters, the corresponding Unicode character
>has the same value, just padded with 0 until it is 16 bits.
>Then you convert between Unicode UCS-16 and Unicode UTF-8 that is used in
>T.140. I guess you have library functions for that.
>If you use V.18, the 5-bit to 7-bit is already there for you.
>The GSM implementation in the GTT feature must contain Unicode to 5-bit
>conversion, but I do not think it is explicitly specified anywhere how it
>What do you want to find, code or specification?
>Gunnar Hellström, Omnitor, Renathvägen 2
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>Från: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej at packetizer.com]
>Skickat: den 23 maj 2003 12:03
>Till: Gunnar Hellström
>Kopia: Fred Lucas; Andrea Saks; Keith Chu; Herb Wildfeuer; Rajesh Kumar
>Ämne: T.140 -> 5-bit Baudot
>It was said in the meeting that there is a way already defined to convert
>between Unicode and 5-bit Baudot characters. I've not seen this
>conversion. Can you point me to it?
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