H248 imported ASN syntax in H.323

Paul E. Jones paulej at PACKETIZER.COM
Mon Jan 22 13:37:30 EST 2001


Bob,

I agree that it's potentially too late..  I say "potentially", because if we
find so much as one real error in the ASN.1 (other than those already listed
on Packetizer), it opens the door to making such a change.  If no textual
changes are required to the approved documents, just the data type, we could
think about it.

Of course, we might be opening the door for more problems :-)

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: "Callaghan, Robert" <Robert.Callaghan at icn.siemens.com>
To: "'Paul E. Jones'" <paulej at PACKETIZER.COM>;
<ITU-SG16 at mailbag.cps.intel.com>
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:11 AM
Subject: RE: H248 imported ASN syntax in H.323


> Paul,
>
> At this point the question is not one of supporting a desirable change.
>
> The proposed change is clearly intended as an improvement.  It is not a
> correction of an error.  This change applies to a decided (approved)
> document.  Therefore any change must be made in a backwards compatible
> manner in the next release of the document.
>
> I, personally, like the change.  But, it is too late.
>
> Bob
>
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>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul E. Jones [mailto:paulej at PACKETIZER.COM]
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:51 PM
> To: ITU-SG16 at mailbag.cps.intel.com
> Subject: Re: H248 imported ASN syntax in H.323
>
> Manoj,
>
> I suppose the argument is that it makes it clearer to the implementer what
> those fields are used for and how they should be completed.  We've had
> confusion in the past over what is supposed to go inside a fastStart
> element, for example.  It's almost worth considering replaying:
>
> h248Message OCTET STRING OPTIONAL
> with
> h248Message MegacoMessage OPTIONAL
>
> but people may have had a good reason not to want to do that.  Perhaps it
> was felt that that would require importing too much :-)
>
> I am fairly indifferent on the matter, though I'd prefer not to make
changes
> to the ASN.1 that are not errors.  However, if we find errors in the ASN.1
> file, I'd consider changing other cosmetic items like this one.  My hope
is
> that the ASN.1 file here:
> http://www.packetizer.com/iptel/h323/h2250v4.asn
>
> is complete and without errors :-)
>
> (Note that it was last updated 18-Jan-2001.)
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul, Manoj" <mpaul at TRILLIUM.COM>
> To: <ITU-SG16 at mailbag.cps.intel.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:53 PM
> Subject: H248 imported ASN syntax in H.323
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> >   Would it not be useful to replace the following ASN.1 syntaxes
> > in H.323 V4:
> >
> >  1) "SEQUENCE OF H248PackagesDescriptor" in RRQ with "SEQUENCE OF OCTET
> > STRING"
> >  2) H248SignalDescriptor by OCTET STRING in ServiceControlDescriptor
> Choice.
> >
> > This would save importing the complete ASN.1 syntax of H248PackageDesc
> > and H248SignalDesc from H.248. It's like representing H.245 tunneled
> > messages in H.225 as OCTET STRINGS and hence  saving the need to
> > import of H.245 syntax. The usage of (1) and (2) as PackageDesc and
> > SignalDesc would be clear from the context.
> >
> > -Manoj Paul.
> >
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