FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF

Dave Walker drwalker at SS8NETWORKS.COM
Thu Mar 9 09:13:22 EST 2000


That's true.  However it's also true that regardless of the fact that lots
of people want to contribute to it, SG16 has not officially sanctioned
this work, and neither has the IETF.  So I humbly suggest that these
discussions be confined to the neutral mailing list that was started
expressly for the purpose of discussing SIP-H.323 interworking:
http://www.egroups.com/group/sip-h323/

Dave Walker
SS8 Networks
Ottawa, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Mailing list for parties associated with ITU-T Study Group 16
[mailto:ITU-SG16 at MAILBAG.INTEL.COM]On Behalf Of VIPIN PALAWAT
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 1:18 AM
To: ITU-SG16 at MAILBAG.INTEL.COM
Subject: Re: FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF


Hi everyone,

If I am not wrong, the discussions and the benefits of IMTC groups are more
or less restricted to IMTC members.
And to become a IMTC member, it costs $7500 anually which will restrict the
open contribution from small companies
and enthusiastic fellows.

As mentioned  by Radhika, the purpose is to come out with  a  proposal which
is widely accepted and commented by a large
community. So , I would rather prefer SG16 to be a better place of
discussion.

I would like to have the views of other members also from this group.

Best Regards
Vipin Palawat


----- Original Message -----
From: Roy, Radhika R, ALARC <rrroy at ATT.COM>
To: <ITU-SG16 at mailbag.cps.intel.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF


> Hi, Everyone:
>
> ITU-T and IETF are the formal standard bodies to create standards for
H.323
> and SIP, respectively, and the interworking standard between the two is
also
> a part of it..
>
> However, all inputs from other organizations will definitely be welcomed.
>
> Best regards,
> Radhika R. Roy
> AT&T
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Euchner Martin [SMTP:Martin.Euchner at MCHP.SIEMENS.DE]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 4:16 AM
> > To:   ITU-SG16 at MAILBAG.INTEL.COM
> > Subject:      Re: FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF
> >
> > just for your information for those interested in H.323/SIP:
> >
> > I would like to draw your attention to an activity group already
debating
> > H.323-SIP interworking for quite a while: IMTC aHIT!. To my knowledge
they
> > already came out with some first results on architectures and
interworking
> > scenarios. Please get in touch with this group and consider their
results.
> > see also http://www.imtc.org/act_ahit.htm
> > <http://www.imtc.org/act_ahit.htm>
> > and discussions on their mailing list.
> >
> > Thus, it appears to me that there are already quite a few groups (IETF,
> > IMTC, ETSI) discussing H323/SIP interworking. I do not quite see
necessity
> > to have ITU-T SG16 as yet another group for this topic.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Martin.
> >
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> >
> >
> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         From:   Joon Maeng [SMTP:joon_maeng at VTEL.COM]
> >         Sent:   Saturday, March 04, 2000 6:56 PM
> >         To:     ITU-SG16 at mailbag.cps.intel.com
> >         Subject:        Re: FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF
> >
> >         Roy, you your are right.  It is focused on the SIP and H.323
> > interworking.
> >         I attached the tentative agenda for the BOF.  Depending on the
> > speakers we
> >         identify, the agenda may inlcude some presenters but the main
> > focus
> > will not
> >         be modified.
> >         Regards,
> >         Joon
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         BOF: SIP and H.323 Interworking (sip323)
> >         Area: Transport
> >         Time requested: one 1 hour slot
> >         Chairs: Joon Maeng <joon_maeng at vtel.com>
> >                 Dave Walker <drwalker at ss8networks.com>
> >
> >         Description:
> >
> >         There are two competing standards in the industry for
establishing
> > and
> >         managing real-time interactive media communications over IP.
One
> > is
> > the
> >         proposed IETF standard, Session Initiation Protocol (RFC 2543),
> > and
> > the
> >         other is the ITU recommendation, H.323.  Although they use the
> > same
> >         protocol (RTP) for media streaming, they cannot establish calls
> > between
> >         them.  In the absence of any formal interoperability standards,
> > many
> >         vendors are beginning to develop proprietary application
gateways
> > for
> >         interworking between SIP and H.323.
> >
> >         In order to provide interoperability between the two standards,
it
> > is
> >         urgent to define a common interworking specifications for the
> > industry.
> >         The recognition of the need for this interworking specification
> > has
> > lead
> >         to calls for its development from both manufacturers and service
> >         providers, individually and through industry consortia (such as
> > IMTC)
> >         and other bodies concerned with interoperability (such as ETSI).
> >
> >         In this BOF, we are going to discuss SIP and H.323 interworking
> > issues,
> >         execution plans and the scope of the work.
> >
> >         Agenda:
> >
> >         - Do we need SIP-H.323 interworking?
> >         - Coordination with other groups?
> >         - Scope of interworking
> >         - Outcome of the work?
> >         - Suggestions?
> >
> >         Helpful reading:
> >             - draft-singh-sip-h323-00.txt
> >             - SIP: Session Initiation Protocol (RFC 2543)
> >             - SDP: Session Description Protocol (RFC 2327)
> >             - ITU recommendations: H.323, H.225.0, H.245
> >
> >         > -----Original Message-----
> >         > From: Roy, Radhika R, ALARC [mailto:rrroy at att.com]
> >         > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 3:12 PM
> >         > To: ITU-SG16 at mailbag.cps.intel.com
> >         > Subject: Re: FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > Hi, Everyone:
> >         >
> >         > It appears that BOF is focused only on SIP-H.323 Interworking
> > (not
> >         > H.323-Internet Interworking as titled by Orit).  I guess that
> >         > Joon and Dave
> >         > will clarify this better.
> >         >
> >         > Best regards,
> >         > Radhika R. Roy
> >         > AT&T
> >         >
> >         > > -----Original Message-----
> >         > > From: Orit Levin [SMTP:orit at radvision.com]
> >         > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 3:57 PM
> >         > > To:   ITU-SG16 at MAILBAG.INTEL.COM
> >         > > Subject:      Re: FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF
> >         > >
> >         > > Great!
> >         > > I am attaching the revised so far TOR. Please, send your
> > comments.
> >         > > Hope you will find it useful in Australia.
> >         > > Best regards,
> >         > > Orit Levin
> >         > > RADVision Inc.
> >         > > 575 Corporate Drive Suite 420
> >         > > Mahwah, NJ 07430
> >         > > Tel: 1 201 529 4300  (230)
> >         > > Fax: 1 201 529 3516
> >         > > www.radvision.com
> >         > > orit at radvision.com
> >         > > -----Original Message-----
> >         > > From: Joon Maeng <joon_maeng at VTEL.COM>
> >         > > To: ITU-SG16 at MAILBAG.INTEL.COM <ITU-SG16 at MAILBAG.INTEL.COM>
> >         > > Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 8:18 PM
> >         > > Subject: FYI - SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > >Hi folks.  There will be a SIP-H.323 Interworking BOF at
> >         > the IETF meeting
> >         > > in
> >         > > >Australia.  Dave Walker with SS8 Networks and I will chair
> >         > the BOF. You
> >         > > can
> >         > > >find the agenda at
> >         http://www.ietf.org/meetings/IETF-47.html when IETF
> >         > posts
> >         > >agendas.
> >         > >Regards,
> >         > >Joon << File: H323-Internet.zip >>



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