Endless Loop

[Meyer, Greg W]

All:

As you have already noticed yesterday, there was an endless loop between the
Cisco automated postoffice and this mail reflector. The person, who was
subscribed to this mail reflector, apparently moved from Cisco and was
removed from their mail service. When a posting occurred, it went to Cisco's
postoffice who now knew nothing of him. So it replied to the mail reflector
(not the originator of the message) and there went the loop.

I'm afraid this may be a consequence to the the limitations of this mail
server, the needs of its members and errant postoffices. We must keep the
list open for public postings (non-members of the list can post) because of
email address changes and group-listings (companies/groups subscribed under
one email address where they manage their own subscribers).

I currently monitor the postings by routing them to a special mailbox.
Unfortunately, my duties prevent me from looking at this every day (travel,
meetings, etc.). So it's possible that one of these endless loop conditions
might occur without my knowledge. Here's where you can help. If you see this
happening, please contact me (mailto:greg.w.meyer at intel.com, or call
503.264.9506) directly but please don't post to the reflector (which would
only make matters worse). Please don't post any new messages while an
endless loop condition is in progress (again, it'll only make matters
worse). Once I'm on it, I'll zap the offender from the list and post an "all
clear" notice.

I apologize for filling up everyone's mailboxes and appreciate your help.

Greg Meyer
mailto:greg.w.meyer at intel.com
503.264.9506

-----Original Message-----
From: Sherlock, Stuart [mailto:stuart.sherlock at INTEL.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:02 PM
To: ITU-SG16 at MAILBAG.INTEL.COM
Subject: Re: Your mail to ggoodkni could not be delivered.


Somebody clean this up!!!!! I am not doing anything here.

Stuart

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                Sent:   Tuesday, September 28, 1999 1:51 PM
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