ITU-T is not "reluctant" to create the references to external organisations. It has made a set of rules for such references, and has then failed so far to get them to work.
The rules are contained in Recommendation A.5 published in 1998.
ITU-T SG9 recently tried to use these rules, and fell foul of the very precise nature of these rules.
The recent ITU-T SG chairmen's meeting discussed this, and I believe identified that the rules were not meant to be this restrictive, and not meant to be applied on a per recommendation / reference basis, i.e. once IETF had been identified as a suitable organisation fulfilling all the rules, it did not repeatedly need to prove its suitability.
I understand SG9 will be attempting more Recommendation references to external organisations in the near future, and in ITU-T SG11, we will also be attempting to do this.
Keith Drage Siemens Communication Systems Limited Nottingham UK
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Toga [SMTP:jim.toga@INTEL.COM] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 4:04 PM To: ITU-SG16@MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: TPKT in H.225.0
I am working on some (initial) text for the Implementers Guide. I will welcome additions/modifications at the Rapportours meeting......
jimt.
At 02:03 PM 2/4/99 +0100, Derks, Frank wrote:
Hi Tom,
I couldn't find it either and I suspect that it couldn't be in
because the
ITU is very reluctant to reference any non-ITU material. Furthermore, RFC1006 encompasses a lot more than just the bit(s) that are used for H.225.0, so even referring to this RFC does not clarify it all. I
think some
work should be spent on this.
Frank
-----Original Message----- From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@NORTELNETWORKS.COM] Sent: 02 February 1999 22:12 To: ITU-SG16@MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: TPKT in H.225.0
I'd swear the reference to RFC1006 used to be in H.225.0 Appendix D,
but I
can't find it there now.
-----Original Message----- From: Derks, Frank [SMTP:F.Derks@PBC.BE.PHILIPS.COM] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 4:05 AM To: ITU-SG16@MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: TPKT in H.225.0
Hi Paul,
I received two responses to my question, one from you and one from
Tom
Taylor. The fact that there are at least two people that know about
it
(and several dozens more that have actually implemented the protocol
stacks),
makes it hard to believe that this is an "oversight" in the recommendation. In fact, not knowing about this makes it impossible to implement an interoperable protocol stack! Shouldn't action be taken to get this
into
the recommendation ASAP (e.g. through the Implementor's Guide)?
Regards,
Frank
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Long [mailto:Plong@SMITHMICRO.COM] Sent: 01 February 1999 18:50 To: ITU-SG16@MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: TPKT in H.225.0
TPKT is defined in RFC 1006. Not identifying TPKT was an oversight
that
has never been fixed in the Recommendation.
Paul Long Smith Micro Software, Inc.
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