Hello all! I enjoyed to see a positive discussion this morning. Therefore I would like to move the topic to the SG-16 mailing list and indicate it by [H.323-Internet] topic. François, any ideas for an alternative name? "SIP" is limiting, "IETF" is political...
Joon, I think that a "scope" chapter is a good idea. I completely agree that before diving into details of our contributions, we have to formulate this part. On the other hand, I see it as an output of our initial discussion, rather then its starting point. If you already have in mind some specifics on the scope chapter, go ahead and put them on the (mailing) paper.
In regards to starting a formal joined work with IETF and pushing for a working group. It is a sensitive issue (Are we in agreement on that?) Everybody (as a company and as an individual) is free to join, initiate or participate in various standards bodies and pursue their goals. These initiatives can be helpful for our work as well. I wouldn't start our ITU work from formal definition of relationships with other standards bodies. As we can see from Henning's mail, the good will from all of us is a great starting point! I am afraid that not all of us will go to Australia. My company (as many others) will have representatives in SIP, Megaco and other relevant working groups. Nevertheless lets start the official H.323-Internet work at ITU. I hope to see more specific topics of interest and "a will" to address them in contributions for Osaka meeting. I will incorporate François' additions. Stephen, could you list IETF latest topics, list of services and level of scenarios that you would like to consider as a part of this work. I wouldn't like to address the same things as TIPHON and IETF do. They are doing very well and we may help them if needed. All of us have different interests, but my personal opinion is that - providing end user with end-to-end basic++ connectivity - enhancing H.323 by using IETF technologies (which definitely helps the first one) - finding common areas of interest among the companies are the criteria for defining our work items. BTW: Conference call is good, but lets do some work at home and on the mailing list before we have an agenda to discuss. Best Regards, Orit Levin RADVision Inc. 575 Corporate Drive Suite 420 Mahwah, NJ 07430 Tel: 1 201 529 4300 (230) Fax: 1 201 529 3516 www.radvision.com orit@radvision.com
I find the title H.323-Internet a bit disconcerting. Wasn't H.323 usable on Internet up to now? The title seems to suggest H.323 on Internet is something new!
I know it is just a title, but I prefer simply H.323-SIP.
Bahman
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-----Original Message----- From: Orit Levin [mailto:orit@radvision.com] Sent: jeudi 24 février 2000 01:51 To: Tom-PT Taylor; martinze@cig.mot.com; ranga.dendi@wcom.com; joon_maeng@vtel.com; Francois Audet; Dave Walker; Paul E. Jones; Henning Schulzrinne; Roy, Radhika R, ALARC; Stephen Terrill; bahman.mobasser@alcatel.fr; jo@teles.com; Joerg Ott Subject: Re: H.323-SIP Discussion
Hello all! I enjoyed to see a positive discussion this morning. Therefore I would like to move the topic to the SG-16 mailing list and indicate it by [H.323-Internet] topic. François, any ideas for an alternative name? "SIP" is limiting, "IETF" is political...
Joon, I think that a "scope" chapter is a good idea. I completely agree that before diving into details of our contributions, we have to formulate this part. On the other hand, I see it as an output of our initial discussion, rather then its starting point. If you already have in mind some specifics on the scope chapter, go ahead and put them on the (mailing) paper.
In regards to starting a formal joined work with IETF and pushing for a working group. It is a sensitive issue (Are we in agreement on that?) Everybody (as a company and as an individual) is free to join, initiate or participate in various standards bodies and pursue their goals. These initiatives can be helpful for our work as well. I wouldn't start our ITU work from formal definition of relationships with other standards bodies. As we can see from Henning's mail, the good will from all of us is a great starting point! I am afraid that not all of us will go to Australia. My company (as many others) will have representatives in SIP, Megaco and other relevant working groups. Nevertheless lets start the official H.323-Internet work at ITU. I hope to see more specific topics of interest and "a will" to address them in contributions for Osaka meeting. I will incorporate François' additions. Stephen, could you list IETF latest topics, list of services and level of scenarios that you would like to consider as a part of this work. I wouldn't like to address the same things as TIPHON and IETF do. They are doing very well and we may help them if needed. All of us have different interests, but my personal opinion is that - providing end user with end-to-end basic++ connectivity - enhancing H.323 by using IETF technologies (which definitely helps the first one) - finding common areas of interest among the companies are the criteria for defining our work items. BTW: Conference call is good, but lets do some work at home and on the mailing list before we have an agenda to discuss. Best Regards, Orit Levin RADVision Inc. 575 Corporate Drive Suite 420 Mahwah, NJ 07430 Tel: 1 201 529 4300 (230) Fax: 1 201 529 3516 www.radvision.com orit@radvision.com
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