Paul,

I absolutely agree with you. However, sometimes the ideal and reality don't always go hand in hand. In defence of the people that put their time and effort into writing this section, the options were to take a section of text that looked correct to them and was intelligible, or miss it out of version 2. I don't think it would of helped anybody to remove fast start from version 2.

Also, the ITU meetings are fairly open. If you don't like the way it's working come along and offer to edit text. The people that do it are just your basic engineer from the vendor community. (Some very basic!!!) They're not claiming to be great legal minds, or great linguists. There just prepared to step up to the plate when needed.

Pete.

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----- Original Message ----- From: Callaghan, Robert Robert.Callaghan@ICN.SIEMENS.COM To: ITU-SG16@mailbag.cps.intel.com Sent: 01 November 2000 13:07 Subject: Re: fastStart element in all Q.931 messages up to and including C onnect

Paul,

I fully agree with this statement.

There should be a statement "Write in haste, pay for it for years!"

Bob

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-----Original Message----- From: Paul Long [mailto:plong@packetizer.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 6:16 PM To: h323implementors@imtc.org Subject: RE: fastStart element in all Q.931 messages up to and including Connect

Pete,

If Fast Connect was written with legalistic precision in the first place,

we

wouldn't be having this discussion now.

Paul Long ipDialog

-----Original Message----- From: owner-h323implementors@imtc.org [mailto:owner-h323implementors@imtc.org]On Behalf Of Pete Cordell Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 3:53 AM To: h323implementors@imtc.org Subject: Re: fastStart element in all Q.931 messages up to and including Connect

Paul,

I think your reading what you want to read. If I go into lawyer mode

(i.e.

ignore the intent and argue the words), I could say...

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