Dear colleagues, it seems that these problems with the PictureTel site keep recurring. I would like to suggest an alternative, that could be discussed in Geneva in October. TSAG has created a mechanism for creating "semi"-open FTP areas under TIES (for the purp[ose of communicating with organizations outside the ITU), outside of the traditional informal FTP area of the SGs. This area has a username/password, but these can be communicated to the interested parties. In this sense, I would like to investigate with you what would be your feeling about migrating all the material that is now available in the PicTel FTP site into such an area hosted by the ITU, created for SG 16. If your response is positive, I would start checking internally how can we most expeditely move into that direction. Best regards, Simao -----Original Message----- From: Tom-PT Taylor [mailto:taylor@NORTELNETWORKS.COM] Sent: 18 September 2002 22:08 To: ITU-SG16@echo.jf.INTEL.COM Subject: PictureTel Site Blocked The PictureTel site is giving me an error message: maximum number of anonymous users exceeded. I expect this is the FTP problem they had before. The administrator address provided in the error message (Patrick Luthi's old address) bounces, so I don't know who to contact to reset the server. Tom Taylor taylor@nortelnetworks.com Ph. +1 613 736 0961 (ESN 396 1490) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For help on this mail list, send "HELP ITU-SG16" in a message to listserv@lists.intel.com
Hello Simao, I think the key feature of the pictel site was that there was no userid and password required. This was certainly beneficial for sharing documents with the IETF who dislike documents that are hidden behind passwords. I think that with any move it would be important to maintain this feature. Regards, Christian
Dear Mr. Campos-Neto, At 12:46 +0200 02/09/19, Campos, Simao wrote:
it seems that these problems with the PictureTel site keep recurring.
This particular thing first. This is a "known problem" and under control of the Polycom administrator. Another fact is the Mr. David Lindberg recently informed us that this site would be closed at the end of this year and transferring it to IMTC, like JVT group's site, is under negotiation.
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In this sense, I would like to investigate with you what would be your feeling about migrating all the material that is now available in the PicTel FTP site into such an area hosted by the ITU, created for SG 16.
Considering the importance of embracing non-ITU members (receiving participation and contributions from them, promoting the ITU works to them, and more importantly encouraging them to implement ITU-T standards), we have been using the Intel's private mailing list and the PictureTel's ftp site instead of the ITU TIES ones. I believe this has worked well for the benefits of ITU. If it is a problem to ITU, then the bottom line should be the password be publicizable. Actually the first site that Graphics Communication Laboratories (my previous work place) provided during 1995-1998 before PictureTel worked like that. However, the barrier should be as low as possible as Christian argues. -- Best regards, OKUBO Sakae e-mail: okubo@giti.waseda.ac.jp ******************************************************************* YRP Office Global Information and Telecommunication Institute (GITI) Waseda University YRP Ichibankan 312 Tel: +81 468 47 5406 3-4 Hikarinooka, Yokosuka-shi, Kanagawa-ken Fax: +81 468 47 5413 239-0847 Japan GITI Headquarter 29-7 Waseda University Bldg. Tel: +81 3 5286 3831 1-3-10 Nishi-Waseda, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo Fax: +81 3 5286 3832 169-0051 Japan *******************************************************************
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