Hi mob group Nicholas Tran's contribution is to be MD-019, Radhika's new contribution to be MD-020. Please can Jaakko load these contributions (Nicolas' and all of Radhika's contributions),and Stephen Terrill's (MD-016) on to the ftp site, I also seem to have problems in loading onto the site. Thanks Jaakko. So the latest MDs for discussion are 11b, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20. Paul