John, see comments below: John Talbot wrote:
Edgar,
Could you clarify whether your contribution represents an agreed TIPHON position.
My contribution is a request for Clarification on where the SG11/Q5 IN or in general where does IN components fit in the Tiphon IP Reference Architecture. So we can get some work done before we meet in Berlin.
Also, it should also be noted that the ITU-T SG11 functional architecture which you refer to in your contribution does not reflect the decomposed media gateway architecture.
The diagram I provided in 14TD058 shows the SG, MGC and MGW TIPHON's decomposed gateway. In SG11/Q5 they refer to the old C Ref. on a non-decomposed GW. This the type of understanding SG11 has and we need to work together to get agreement and bring very one upto date.
The potential impact this would have on the location of the CCF does not appear to have been considered by the ITU-T liaison.
The CCF that SG11/Q5 provided in the liaison statement diagram shows the CCF on the IN side, the CCF for IN suspends the calls and/or report events to the SSF. Looking at it from the Tiphon or Megaco IP side the MGW provides the same CCF function using the N interface to report to the MCG. From the SG11/Q5 diagram it is referred to as Call/Bearer (C/B) GF with a C Ref. point to H.323 GK F. I think the information we get from TIPHON and SG16 will help to work out these misunderstandings. Regards, Ed
Cheers
John Talbot Nortel Networks
-----Original Message----- From: Edgar Martinez [1] [SMTP:martinze@CIG.MOT.COM] Sent: 09 July 1999 10:17 To: ITU-SG16@MAILBAG.INTEL.COM Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: 14TD058]]]
Dear All,
Some TIPHON work going on to address Q5/11 Requirements for the Functional Architecture for IN support of IP-networks. Tiphon-14 meeting is from July 18-24. The Documents are in:
http://docbox.etsi.org/tech-org/tiphon/Document/tiphon/05-9907-Amsterdam/
If you are interested.
Regards, Ed
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: 14TD058 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 04:47:24 -0400 From: "Edgar Martinez [1]" <martinze@cig.mot.com> Organization: NSS-NAT To: Matt Holdrege <matt@ascend.com> CC: TIPHON@LIST.ETSI.FR References: <3782F084.E48DC7D5@cig.mot.com> <199907090807.DAA01209@alba.cig.mot.com>
Matt,
Can we get more details on the meeting dates start and end date. I am attending a SG16 rapporteur's meeting in Berlin from Aug. 2-6. We are looking at the same Liaison statement that SG11/Q5 has provided to TIPHON. Basically, I asked SG16 to use the T IPHON reference architecture in the response back to SG11/Q5. We will have a final reply from SG16 to SG11 by the end of the Berlin meeting. So I will like to keep SG16 informed.
Regards, Ed
Matt Holdrege wrote:
I tried to include TIPHON architectural issues in the 5/11 architecture at the last 5/11 meeting. We couldn't come to a full agreement during the meeting and asked for contributions for the next rapporteur's meeting.
Unfortunately the next 5/11 meeting is during the next TIPHON meeting. I was thinking about leaving TIPHON early and going to the 5/11 meeting which starts on the 21st. But I'm not sure of my schedule yet.
If anyone in TIPHON is going to the WP4/11 meeting, let us know if you can represent our architecture.
At 03:46 PM 7/8/99 -0400, Edgar Martinez [1] wrote: Dear all,
The following document has been uploaded onto Inbox:
Document: TITLE:Clarification on where the SG11/Q5 IN components may fit in the Tiphon Reference Architecture.
Regards, Ed
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