Dear All, I would like to have a meeting at the IETF (informal BOF?) discussing methods for VoIP and Multimedia over IP traversing non-upgraded firewalls and NATs. These methods are intended to supplement the firewall architecture, and not require upgrade to existing firewall/NAT components, or clients (and other infrastructure such as proxies). There is a draft discussing one proposal at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-davies-fw-nat-traversal-00.txt If others have ideas in this area, then please contact me and we can arrange some sort of agenda. (Although note that I will be out of contact until the Sunday before the IETF - i.e. this Sunday! - so we might have to organise this at the IETF.) I hope the format will be something like: - Overview presentation of method - How this is secure and maintains administrator control - (Repeat for each proposal) - Collect issues that need to be addressed before going to a formal BOF. (The modified agenda involves the final item being changed to 'chaos'!) At this stage I would like to avoid discussion about how this compares to MidCom and other approaches - such as Rosenberg's - as I think it will quickly turn into a blood bath. - We should save that for the formal BOF! I'm hoping to hold the meeting in: The King's Suite/Sandringham 1 on Thursday 17:45 -> 18:45, but I obviously haven't had a chance to check this with the organisers. Therefore, please look out for final details on the noticeboard, and probably the door of the King's Suite. I look forward to seeing you all, Pete. (P.S. Sorry for putting this on the SG16 and TIPHON lists, but I'm well aware that many of you attend the IETF and I wanted to make sure you had the opportunity to come along.) ============================================= Pete Cordell Tech-Know-Ware pete@tech-know-ware.com +44 1473 635863 ============================================= _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP